I hope we all know this and are just doing it as a bit, but sometimes I do see shit on this website that makes me go “Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”
The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.
“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant. The idea that most people have in their heads about porn addiction is propaganda made up by evangelicals.
We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.
Most of the time when people talk about “the gooner problem” what they’re actually talking about is a mix of two unrelated things, people living normal sexually liberated lives, and undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.
Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to. Don’t fall for puritan propaganda comrades.
Agreed but I think we can all also agree that when Norman Finkelstein talked about gooning being fascist it was both correct and one of the funniest things ever.
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Facts. Lmfao at thinking otherwise. If there were better economic oppurtunities how many of them would go into it? I mean really? They use industrial levels of lube and the extreme one go to the point of prolapse. The absolute state of the racist category. The transphobic titles that persist on there. The way sites had to crack down on the pedo shit. The doxxing and harrassment the workers put up with. The abuse on the sets. Shit is
Then mfs go in on those workers when they switch to onlyfans for better pay and less physically taxing content
Without getting into too much detail, I know a good handful of people who draw erotic art/write erotic stories without any expectation that they will ever make money off of it. They just like making the stuff.
rando smut authors or queer bara artist on x aren’t usually what most people consume as porn.
I admit that mostly hanging out in autistic/LGBTQ+ spaces may have given me a skewed perception of such subjects
Tbh I mean the mainstream pornhub and hardcore stuff. There are so many stories of former ones that regret it because of the social stigma of sex work that strains their relationship with partners and family, getting screwed out of money, abuse etc. Some felt they were too young to make an informed decision on this. Others is because of religious stigma. Etc. Then there are the nastier ones that may not be mainstream… Tbf a lot of this is reflection of the society but I will always look at the mainstream industry with the
for embracing the bullshit
Makes sense, I’ve only been tangentially exposed to the big mainstream industry and what I saw was enough to make me not want to explore further.
I dunno what I’m talking about. I’m just a weirdo fighter tbh
Very different than getting prolapsed on set by an old fat dude who says he won’t pay you if you leave early, then having the title of the video be something horrendous like
cw: misogyny, SA, racism, incest
spoiler
Tiny Asian gets ass destroyed by BWC of White Step dad
This shit is on the front page of the biggest sites, like constantly. Watched by tens of millions of men (and women) reinforcing this fascistic mindset. Like all over the place. I implore you to just go and look at it and face the horror.
I don’t doubt it’s awful, though it seems to me the common factor here is capital and the profit motive. Similar to how it turns gaming into endless horror stories of “modern military shooter about killing brown people with tie-in Army recruitment ads made by devs working 80-hour weeks who all got fired after the game made record profits” and “asset flip glorified slot machine.”
Mods removed my comment for being “SWERF” lmao
That’s because porn isn’t inherently fascist. You made a general statement that was incorrect. I corrected it. You clarify yourself a bit in other posts, so those are still up.
Capital P Porn, as in the existing Porn industry, absolutely is fascist
Lots of people agreed with my post, and it isn’t SWERF so restore it
Lots of people agree with alot of things that are incorrect.
Your comment was not accurate, and was swerf shit until you clarified in other posts. Swerf shit doesn’t get restored.
No it was not and you are wrong. My other posts “clarifying my position” are saying the same thing my original comment was. It was not SWERF and you have a bias that is causing you to not use a Marxist feminist lens
If lots of communists on this site agree, and I’m making a legitimate Marxist feminist argument about the actually existing porn industry instead of idealized figments, you are just attempting to control the conversation through mod fiat
Being a mod doesn’t make you right. Common mistake in here and in this thread is appeals to authority instead of engaging with material reality.
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edit: since you went back and added 3 paragraphs after your first sentence: Your original comment states porn is inherently fascist. You do not state otherwise until other posts. That one got deleted. The others didn’t. If you don’t understand the decision, I dunno what to tell you. For fuck’s sake, we agree on this issue. Your post was worded badly enough to be taken out of context, so its gone. End of.
Yeah, they do that. It’s really stupid.
It’s the same tactic lib-zionists use when they label anti-Israel leftists as antisemitic.
They did the same thing to me a couple months back because I said I would judge coworkers who look at extremely sexualized anime content at work as weeb coomers. They called me a coomer for “thinking it’s sexual” and banned me
porn is not fascistic wtf are you talking about lol
the porn industry and how liberals talk about porn kinda is. filming yourself fucking and putting it on the internet isn’t.
Sure. “Capitalist corporations are fascist” I’m not sure you’re gonna find much disagreement with that on this site. That has nothing to do with porn specifically.
And in fact I’d argue that the environment of repression and shame around sex and porn reinforces the fascist vibes in industrial porn production, because the law and regulations on pornography think of sex as icky and don’t want to deal with it in a healthy way.
ok go to pornhub and tell me the top 20 categories
That doesn’t really say anything about porn inherently, just that we live in a fascist society.
Nowhere else in our “fascist” society is this level of overt fascism tolerated. I could not go to work or go on television and start categorizing women by color and how fuckable they are because of that, or how slurs need to be choked hard or whatever. Mainstream porn’s overt and explicit fascism exceeds any other facet of our society, meaning it has a special quality above and beyond that of the rest of society. Or is the outlet and release for the pent up fascist sexual frustrations of the populace. Either way, that makes Porn in our society fascist. Doesn’t matter if it’s the chicken or the egg, at the end of the day it’s extremely fascist in its actual existing state
Also, it’s not just pornhub or our society. Go to Russian, African, Spanish speaking or Chinese porn sites and you will find the same thing
Sex (and especially kink) is where people explore the extremes of human emotion. Sexual spaces are more blatant about everything. We live in a fascist society, so the open fascism becomes very apparent. But you can also find plenty of porn that is quite literally the active opposite of that.
i’m talking about the industry as it exists while you are talking about the platonic ideal of porn in a vaccuum. We are not going to come to a consensus on this because of this
And I completely disagree with your notion that sexual spaces are just more blatant about everything. Where on Pornhub is the extremely blatant Marxist section? Porn addiction only goes one way, towards more and more extreme ends of fetishization, humiliation, degredation, objectification, etc. It doesn’t tend towards the extremity of humanitarianism or equality.
when i jerk off all day to online pornography, i’m not jerking off to porn inherently; i’m jerking off to porn within a neoliberal order which purports to best provide individual preference satisfaction but because of the profit motive and class realities provides a world incentivized to indulge my selfish impulses at the expense of workers and the collective good and my own opportunity for actual intimacy.
no one cares about porn inherently, no one jerks off to porn inherently.
Idealism upon idealism in here because people don’t want to introspect
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Apparently being against the industrial sexual assault factory makes one a “SWERF”
gooners are fascists in the making https://youtu.be/gcaaIvJPjYI
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Telling him about gooning was elder abuse
I have seen some weird goon fetish thing, where whiteness and masculinity is “fetishized”, so I dont doubt it.
Yeah, there’s some weird porn out there, and in our devolving fascist society a lot of the porn will be about how weird and fascist our society is. Porn is downstream of culture.
You can also find weird fetish porn about black supremacy. Sissification is a weirdly common fetish now and that’s the opposite of fetishizing masculinity.
I would disagree that sissification doesn’t fetishize masculinity. Half of it is putting masculinity on this pedestal in a very fetishistic way via the degradation of femininity and the humiliation of the feminine subject.
Sissification flooding everything made me so happy when i finally found some trans empowerment erotica
Well I mean porn is a product stemming from social anxiety and fears and it functions as a pressure value for the “forbidden aspects”. Whiteness and heteronormative masculine hegemony are believed to be under threat and are being reinforced by the demonization of the other, the fact that race and gender fetish porn, especially “sissification” which comes from the subconscious fear of being not “manly” enough and disgust at femininity fostered by the fash, is rising in popularity is the evidence for it.
There was a cultural festival in rome, where enslavers would roleplay with their slaves by switching positions.