(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)

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    Fight all you want, by all means, bring those in power further left. But at the ballot box come election day, I don’t care if the dem wants to sacrifice puppies on weekends. Guaranteed their Republican opponent has a factory grinding puppies into various consumer products by the millions. And their 3rd party counterpart likely has a greater chance of getting elected to mayor of flavortown than to congress/president (and also still probably kills puppies casually among friends themselves).

    Is this system bullshit? Yup. Is it the one we got? Yup. We need to deal within that reality. By all means, let’s work to change that system, but for the love of God, let’s not shoot ourselves in the foot when our favorite candidate doesn’t stand a chance in hell, or the more likely candidate is blatantly flawed (but still better than the alternative)

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      100%. Prior to Election Day? Get a democratic butt in every race and challenge the people advocating for puppy sacrifices.

      Unfortunately we are at a point where only one party can be fixed.

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      Buddy this post is about leftists. You are not a leftist. You’re a left-leaning liberal. Read a book ffs.

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      The problem is, all that fighting, criticizing and finger pointing can be weaponized. That’s why FUD works.

      You just amplify any legit concerns until they seem worse than Trump.

      I’m convinced most of the leftists on here are either foreign actors or repeating their talking points.

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        I agree. It’s important to not lose the thread or your sense of reality when focusing on internal problems. Internal problems are usually differences of opinion, perspective, or goals, but with the same or similar basic values behind them. It’s important to keep those shared values in mind even while nitpicking the other stuff when you’re trying to influence the direction of your side. Keep in mind that you are all going generally the same direction while the Right is pulling against every step you take together, and just because your differences among the Left is your focus now doesn’t mean it is a bigger deal than your differences with the Right.

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          The Neoliberals have had 50 years in control of the “leftist” party, and they have only enabled the country to move further right.

          They are either impotent or complicit.

          This election the Neoliberals will either lose control of the party or we start a new leftist party. If they try to shove another milquetoast neolib down our throats they might get elected, but then the next Trump gets elected after 4 years of impotence and the cycle of the Duopoly continues.

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            Obvious bad faith argument. Voters and gerrymandering from the GOP moved the country further right.

            The country will move left when leftists start winning elections.

            Which is much less likely now that Trump is in office.

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              My bad I must have forgotten the part where Democrats, the “leftist” party of unions and ending slavery, wasn’t allowed to ever gain power in my lifetime, and that’s why they have done absolutely nothing to protect unions and push leftist policy.

              OH WAIT A DEMOCRAT GETS ELECTED EVERY 4 YEARS AND THEN FUCKING MEETS FASCISTS IN THE MIDDLE, MOVING US FURTHER TO THE RIGHT.

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                No one is “allowed” to take power. There is a constant struggle for it. Leftists have been losing that struggle because they don’t get enough votes.

                Dems move right because it is a politician’s job to cater to their constituents regardless of their ideology. If there are fewer leftist constituents then the politicians move right.

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                  Ahh yes, that’s why Republicans do such a good job representing the normies and leftists in their constituents, because they represent all of their constituents, right?

                  Your brain is mush if you seriously believe it’s perfectly OK for Dems to move right and repugs to also move right…

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                    “If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”

                    As republicans have become less popular over the years, they have resorted to more gerrymandering, voter suppression and psyop campaigns to win without catering to constituents. Like the one you are contributing to right now.

                    Your brain is mush if you seriously believe it’s perfectly OK for Dems to move right and repugs to also move right…

                    It is what the voters voted for. You sound like a dictator who demands it your way instead of what the people want.