• Dzso@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Regardless of whether Canada is able to win the trade war (I hope!), the US has already lost either way.

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      It’s sort of funny - Seeing the rise of the Buy Canadian or Buy from EU groups/movements/knowledge sharing as a U.S. citizen and thinking “Shit, can I buy from them, too?”

      Equal parts recognizing that buying American made usually means you’re just buying something assembled from components produced elsewhere and that standards here are not as good. (And getting worse all the time, now that the pro-corporate writing is on the wall.)

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        5 hours ago

        Right?

        When I was younger, I’d try to “buy American” but over the years I’ve slowly stopped caring for the same reasons you’ve described.

        Now, I’m purposefully looking for non-american origins. As long as it’s sustainable, I’ll be buying more Canadian, Mexican, and European products now.

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    15 hours ago

    The funny thing is that if Trump starts attacking him, it will have the opposite effect in Canada and will win him votes. I wonder if Trump is too braindead to realize that. We’ll see tomorrow.

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      7 hours ago

      Trump save face? Come on, the guy is completely shameless. He doesn’t need to save face, just tell him he’s a good boy and that’s enough.

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      Why would we want to let him save face? Let the US collapse and let the world know he did it.

      I love our American brothers and sisters, but that’s exactly why thier “democracy” needs to be burned down. They need to rise from the ashes of this hell.

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        Because this particular angry geriatric toddler has access to a lot of ways to make people suffer on a large scale and delights in the suffering of people. Sure, making him feel miserable feels great, but how many lives are you willing to sacrifice for it?

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          He’s going to do it anyway - haven’t you been paying attention? Trump doesn’t want any concessions. This isn’t an honest deal, it’s a façade.

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            Yes he will make people suffer regardless, but I am referring to a difference in the scale of suffering here. There’s ways for him to think he has won without actually winning. Plenty of leaders have used it against him already. Though admittedly this would work better if the media then didn’t follow up with “Haha. Cheeto doesn’t even know he didn’t win”. We might not be able to escape that one for the more public parts of politics. Though he’s trying hard to cut off the media that isn’t on his side and silence them, so who knows really.

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      He’s so selfish and arrogant that catering to his ego will be critical. I think he’d prefer a crummy deal that lets him look good, over a great deal that embarrasses him. He doesn’t care what’s best for the USA long term; he’d rather look good now.

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      15 hours ago

      It doesn’t matter if Trump loses. Trump will lie about the outcome and the cult will lap it up.

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        Guess that depends on your perspective; as a Canadian I have a vested interest in Trump losing. But Trump has a vested interest in being Trump, which includes never admitting defeat. I’d prefer his response not be “Oh yeah? Well I’ve nuked Toronto. Take that!”

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      I wonder if he’ll be swapping Trudeau’s “let’s get back to being allies” message for a stronger first impression.

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    I trust him to guide the country in the proper direction. Canada is ridiculously, stupidly underestimated.