I see so many people thinking that this isn’t going to be a problem for them because they are thinking of heaters and AC and also that they’ll probably die while it’s still livable.
But meanwhile they put kids on this world, who will call our generations the worst people to have ever existed.
Despite what capitalism would have you believe, humans are part of nature. With the same effort that has allowed us to destroy nature faster than any other species, we can maintain or restore balance better than any other species. It makes as much sense to argue against the next generation of humans to “restore the ecosystem” as it makes sense to argue against the next generation of bees.
Let them call us, those born in the 20th century, the worst people to have ever existed. It’s not far from the truth. But why let that stop us from doing the right thing: giving birth to them so they can fix this mess for future generations or die trying? Why let our shame deny the ecosystem the best chance at recovery?
With all the respect, Your argument feels just dogmatic. If we can solve the climate crisis, we must do it, not hope for someone else to. All this generational talk feels just like an excuse to keep the status quo. There’s no magical generation coming to save the world, just people just like us.
You’re right that we need to fight, but we will grow old and die before we’ve returned the world to a state our children deserve to live in. I don’t mean to diminish our duty, but to say that creating the next generation of people to continue that fight is part of that duty. Not for our children’s sake, but hopefully for our great grandchildren and every generation afterwards.
This is a genuinely nice sentiment, but it is worth noting that the world is way more populated than most past generations, and while any hope for us will fall largely on the squares of future generations, their job would be so much easier if there were a lot less of them.
Some developed countries seem to have this notion that declining birth rates will be the end of them and while that can be somewhat true for how economic systems are set up, the world was objectively a lot more sustainable before the boomers generation, population wise
Because living in a world with extreme weather events where you can’t leave your house for weeks because of heat waves and never before seen storms, and possibly damage to your home(this has already happened where I live), where a home garden will die to heat waves, with constant shortages of food and water, is not a life I’d wish on my enemy, much less someone I love.
We are already starting to see more extreme heat waves and weather, we know it’s happening, and we’re drilling for more oil than ever, so the chances the next generation will suddenly start making big changes when the past two have done worse than nothing while being fully informed seems extremely unlikely to me. I’m pretty optimistic on most everything, but there is not a single sign pointing to this being resolved by humans within the next 100 years, if ever.
I see so many people thinking that this isn’t going to be a problem for them because they are thinking of heaters and AC and also that they’ll probably die while it’s still livable.
But meanwhile they put kids on this world, who will call our generations the worst people to have ever existed.
We at least didn’t have kids, and I’ll probably accidentally drink myself to death anyway.
Same here. Cheers!
Despite what capitalism would have you believe, humans are part of nature. With the same effort that has allowed us to destroy nature faster than any other species, we can maintain or restore balance better than any other species. It makes as much sense to argue against the next generation of humans to “restore the ecosystem” as it makes sense to argue against the next generation of bees.
Let them call us, those born in the 20th century, the worst people to have ever existed. It’s not far from the truth. But why let that stop us from doing the right thing: giving birth to them so they can fix this mess for future generations or die trying? Why let our shame deny the ecosystem the best chance at recovery?
With all the respect, Your argument feels just dogmatic. If we can solve the climate crisis, we must do it, not hope for someone else to. All this generational talk feels just like an excuse to keep the status quo. There’s no magical generation coming to save the world, just people just like us.
You’re right that we need to fight, but we will grow old and die before we’ve returned the world to a state our children deserve to live in. I don’t mean to diminish our duty, but to say that creating the next generation of people to continue that fight is part of that duty. Not for our children’s sake, but hopefully for our great grandchildren and every generation afterwards.
I’m saying it’s extremely selfish to put kids on a world you’re not fighting hard enough for because it doesn’t concern you.
Ah, that’s fair. I meant you were complaining about people that had kids in general.
This is a genuinely nice sentiment, but it is worth noting that the world is way more populated than most past generations, and while any hope for us will fall largely on the squares of future generations, their job would be so much easier if there were a lot less of them.
Some developed countries seem to have this notion that declining birth rates will be the end of them and while that can be somewhat true for how economic systems are set up, the world was objectively a lot more sustainable before the boomers generation, population wise
Because living in a world with extreme weather events where you can’t leave your house for weeks because of heat waves and never before seen storms, and possibly damage to your home(this has already happened where I live), where a home garden will die to heat waves, with constant shortages of food and water, is not a life I’d wish on my enemy, much less someone I love.
We are already starting to see more extreme heat waves and weather, we know it’s happening, and we’re drilling for more oil than ever, so the chances the next generation will suddenly start making big changes when the past two have done worse than nothing while being fully informed seems extremely unlikely to me. I’m pretty optimistic on most everything, but there is not a single sign pointing to this being resolved by humans within the next 100 years, if ever.