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    2 hours ago

    Because of citizens united, money decides election wins. So how do we win without donors?

    This was the question that you are avoiding.

    To overhaul campaign funding they need to win. For that to happen they need donors.

    Also, just because a saying exists doesn’t make it right.

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      They didn’t avoid it

      They outspent and lost this time.

      Is a refutation of the premise. If, as you say, donation money decides elections then the democrats, having gotten and spent more, should have won.

      So, did money decide this election win?

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        23 minutes ago

        Republicans spent money and won. So yes it does. I never said spending the most money guarantees a win. That’s a straw man argument you are trying to build.

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          11 minutes ago

          Was your argument that “democrats have to spend some money”? The position that would be arguing against is that others believe they spend no money.

          Not trying to build strawmen, I’m just genuinely confused. No-one is saying they spend no money, or court any donations. Which is why I, and seemingly the person you were having a discussion with thought, you meant most money.

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            This was the original comment I responded to.

            As long as we allow the DNC to prioritize rewarding donor bundlers with leadership positions, it’ll never change.

            My question was how do we win elections without donors?

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            6 minutes ago

            Was your argument that “democrats have to spend some money”? The position that would be arguing against is that others believe they spend no money.

            Not trying to build strawmen, I’m just genuinely confused. No-one is saying they spend no money, or court any donations. Which is why I, and seemingly the person you were having a discussion with thought, you meant most money.

            Because of citizens united…

            part interests me. Before citizens united were parties forbidden from spending money?