“When feminist filmmaker Cassie Jaye sets out to document the mysterious and polarizing world of the Men’s Rights Movement, she begins to question her own beliefs. Jaye had only heard about the Men’s Rights Movement as being a misogynist hate-group aiming to turn back the clock on women’s rights, but when she spends a year filming the leaders and followers within the movement, she learns the various ways men are disadvantaged and discriminated against.”

  • Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    My dad once gave me this movie as homework. It not very good, I told him as much.

    So, my dad was absent during my early years. When my mother, and he, divorced he suddenly wanted equal, if not total access. I timed stamped a little piece of the movie calling just such a man out, and sent him to it. Did he engage with that point? Nah, just went on to assert his next line of nonsense.

    Anyway, here’s a better line of critique than I can write

    • lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      That movie is a lot older than the reupload suggests (reupload says 2022, actual year the video was release was 2016). This was during the time the left was the most reactionary that I know of (I was also a reactionary left-leaning person at the time). I used to see this type of thing as based and the correct answer, but after CHAZ failed, Trump’s second win and just talking to some right-leaning people, I started to question this type of thinking (black people can’t be racist, constant schadenfreude and smugness of opponents instead of understanding and nuance, anger is good, denounce people who are less radical then me, every leftist is good and every rightwinger is bad, etc).

      Social media was also seen back then by most millennials as a universal good and not a manipulation machine. Now a lot of these ideas are now seen as psyops by a lot of the left now. Just seeing the ICE Portland protest with the silly costumes felt more effective optically than most of the 2010’s protests. It’s really easy to beileve “AnTiFa ArE ThE ReAl FaScIsTs…” when the colors are red & black and look and act scary and menacing. Protests are a lot smarter these days and I am glad for it.

      I am of course still a leftist. Just a more understanding and careful one (and also jaded). I’m glad Big Joel exists to combat a lot of this reactionary-type thinking.

        • imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          2 days ago

          More vague criticism…which aspect of civil rights do you find “bullshit” or “cherry picking”?

          So you just found out about rape this month because it occurred at Cornell and as a result think nobody should have civil rights. Edgy! What’s your justification there?

  • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    The thing about misandry is that like 80% of it is stuff men need to help each other with. They barely listen to women to begin with, they’re not going to suddenly start when women tell them it’s important to express their emotions and talk about their feelings (I’ve tried). Men need to build their own mental health movements by working on themselves using the research / evidence based practices that already exist then model healthy behavior for other men and grow that movement from there. Men’s mental health isn’t going to start with dumping more of their emotions on women because having a romantic relationship be the only way they’re comfortable with emotional intimacy was the problem to begin with. But redpill just wants women to fix it and blames them when they don’t.