• bedwyr@piefed.ca
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    1 day ago

    Sounds like me, except I would drink the broccoli water.

    Once you reset your palette, cutting out excess salt and sugar and cheap fats, and processed foods, you learn to enjoy the taste of whole foods all on their own. Salted ourselves to taste, which is far less than processed food will add.

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        9 hours ago

        Microwave is brilliant for cooking broccoli. I want it fast, fresh and moist. You kill the flavour and the nutritional value by overcooking it in an oven.

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          You can put it in a bit of water on the stove for a few minutes and get the same result too, without overcooking it. I know microwaves are faster though, but I have a different appreciation of time I guess…

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      23 hours ago

      …there’s gotta be a healthy solution somewhere between industrially processed meals and plain microwave-boiled broccoli

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        17 hours ago

        No! If you don’t take an extreme stance on this topic, you might be seen as boring!

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        20 hours ago

        A toaster oven, or regular oven I guess if you’re fancy, some olive oil and a sprinkling of red chili flaked will get you done delicious roast broccoli (400°F/205°C for ~15 minutes)

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          17 hours ago

          Oil makes a huge difference. Or butter. Even fat drippings, like turkey gelatin from cooking one.

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            9 hours ago

            the biggest mistake of vegan food is that it uses too little fat in most cases, i think

            because “health”. meanwhile plant oil is actually healthy

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              6 hours ago

              It irritates me this campaign against “seed oils,” and the fact that any real harms from those seed oils would be from chemical contamination, not the seed oil itself, and I haven’t heard a single person argue that.

              Fat is very important, you need so much before your body feels full, so you overeat on a low fat diet. It got libeled by the sugar trade groups to fob off blame, quite successfully.

              Meanwhile, half of sugar is fructose, and 60% of high fructose corn syrup. The remainder is glucose. Glucose is good, used in the body as is, it’s a principal ingredient in hospital iv drips for instance, fructose on the other hand has to get processed by the liver into fat first, then broken down when needed in the cells, (yes it’s more complicated that that but basically.)

              But the body doesn’t recognize fructose as calories, it doesn’t contribute to a full feeling. So when they swill those soft drinks they are packing the equivalent of 16 teaspoons of sugar in each one, getting massive caloric intake that doesn’t register on their hunger.