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    28 days ago

    I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better. I also use ai when I get spotify suggestions. I use ai when I use autocorrect. I use ai without even realizing I’m using ai and the ai improves from it, and I and many other people get an improved quality of life from it, that’s why nearly everyone uses it just like I do.

    So, @givesomefucks , do you also regularly use ai that improves from from your usage? Or are you not a hypocrite who thinks there is something morally bad about specific ais that you don’t like while doing exactly what you claim to be against with other ais? How are your moral lines drawn?

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      28 days ago

      Thanks for the example!

      Whether an individual determines AI “smart” depends on how smart the person is. We’re all all our own frame of reference.

      I have no doubt AI impresses you every day of your life, even stuff that’s not AI apparently, because not all of your examples were.

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        27 days ago

        You are just ignorant of the history and evolution of the term “AI”. It’s easy for anyone to learn about it’s history, your point of view is just one of ignorance of the past.

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      27 days ago

      Thanks for demonstrating what a useless term “AI” is when you’re not trying to sell snake oil.

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        27 days ago

        Every word in every language changes over time. The term AI changing is the absolute normal. It’s not some mark against it.

        Current llms are phenomenally beneficial for some things. Millions of developers have had their entire careers completely changed. Teachers are able to grade work in 10% of the time. Children through to college students and anyone interested in learning have infinitely patient tutors on demand 24 hours a day. The fact that you are completely clueless about what is going on doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination mean it isn’t happening. It just means that you not only feel like you are “beyond learning”, it also means that you don’t even have people in your life that are still interested in personal growth, or you are too shallow to have conversations with anyone who is.

        This is just beginning. The more you cling to being in denial of progress, the further you will get behind. You are denying any mode of transportation other than horses even exists, while people are routinely flying around the world. It most likely won’t be too long until your mindset is widely accepted as a mental disorder.

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          27 days ago

          Every word in every language changes over time. The term AI changing is the absolute normal. It’s not some mark against it.

          Lumping machine learning algorithms, llms, regressive learning, search algorithms all in one bucket and calling it “AI” serves no proper purpose. There is no consensus, it’s not a clear definition, it’s not convenient and it only helps sell bullshit. Llms aren’t intelligent. Calling them that is the opposite of useful.

          Current llms are phenomenally beneficial for some things.

          Namely: the portfolio of tech shareholders and grifters.

          Millions of developers have had their entire careers completely changed.

          Lol, no. What’s your source for this?

          Teachers are able to grade work in 10% of the time.

          Poor students.

          Children through to college students and anyone interested in learning have infinitely patient tutors on demand 24 hours a day.

          Have you heard of the stories where students believed some AI bullshit more than what their teacher told them? Great “tutor” you have there.

          The fact that you are completely clueless about what is going on

          Sure, bud. /s

          It just means that you not only feel like you are “beyond learning”, it also means that you don’t even have people in your life that are still interested in personal growth, or you are too shallow to have conversations with anyone who is.

          Oh, please tell me more about my life, stranger on the internet! /s

          What an asshole, seriously.

          Have fun in your tech cult, you ableist bootlicker.

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            27 days ago

            Yesterday’s AI is today’s normal technology, this is just what keeps happening. Some people just keep forgetting how rapidly things are changing.

            You’ll join this “cult” once the masses do, just like you have been doing all along. Some of us are just out here a little bit in the future. You will be one of us when you think it becomes cool, and then you will self-righteously act like you were one of us all along. That’s just what weak-minded followers do. They try to seem like they knew all along where the world was headed without ever trying to look ahead and ridiculing anyone who does.

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              27 days ago

              The thing you’re evangelizing only leads to more consolidation of power and money, loss of jobs and power for the working class and climate devastation.

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                27 days ago

                Yeah, technological progress has historically made life worse for humans.

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                  26 days ago

                  Technological “progress” historically mostly served to siphon power to the wealthy.

                  Also, as a species, we’re currently in the process of conucting a mass extinction, as well as destroying our biosphere.

                  I recommend you to read the book “Blood in the Machine” as an account how industrialization worsened the life of 19th century textile workers and how the Luddites fought against the disenfrachisement of the people.

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                    26 days ago

                    I recommend reading “The Better Angels of Our Nature” by Steven Pinker. People love to complain about how much worse quality of life has gotten for people, but when actually pressed for specific ways it has gotten worse, they are almost always arguing from a complete ignorance of history. Lifespan is much longer, healthspan is much longer, rapes are way down, murders are way down, torture is way down, dying in childbirth is way down, incest is way fown, pedophilia is way down, starvation is way down, dying from wild animals is way down, wars are way down. Problems now for lots of the world are things like people bickering over who gets to be next to who when they pee and who called a “he” a “she”.

                    This idea that the world is way worse than it used to be is absurd and just shines a massive light on how popular it has gotten to selfish brats completely oblivious of where we came from.

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            27 days ago

            There is a reason why you point to examples from years ago, that’s because that is where you are still stuck.

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              27 days ago

              Students “correcting” their teachers on AI bullshit isn’t “from years ago”.

              Old examples of AI I counted used to be the bleeding edge of AI research. Now they’re an old hat. The same thing will happen to LLMs. And LLMs won’t lead to so-called “AGI”, just like the other examples didn’t.