Yet, the Democratic governor of Kentucky continues to be a chicken-shit coward. He has the power to end this now, but he’s too much of a coward to do anything. He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election. If McConnell still walks among the living, then he can show up in court to prove his health quite easily. It would be the quickest court case ever.
This is squarely on the hands of that sniveling coward Governor Beshear.
Waaaah, but what if we caaaan’t? What if it doesn’t work? What if the courts just overrule it?
Who fucking cares if it doesn’t work? Try it anyway and quit being a god-damn child.
Let’s stop this limp-wristed, self-defeating, surrender-in-advance attitude. Here’s an idea. Try having a god damned backbone. Try it anyway and see if it sticks. As long as you have a half-decent legal theory, give it a go.
Liberals are shiftless cowards. Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court. Democrats second-guess themselves into paralysis.
The problem is that the right just does the thing five fucking times over while the left wrings their hands about how they might be perceived for even considering the thing.
It works because they think the whole pearl clutching act from the right is genuine. It never fucking is. It’s a cudgel.
I’m not sure how this can ever be fixed because the left tends to genuinely care about doing things ethically. The right knows this and uses it. There’s no way to stop it without fundamentally changing our ethics (and losing our ideology in the process).
We have to be mindful of this strategy and stop giving the benefit of the doubt to people who abuse it as a means to an end. To literally kill people for being trans, for example.
If trump has taught me anything, it’s that lawmakers can do whatever the fuck they want and let the courts sort it out later. And then maybe ignore the courts anyway.
Jump down into the shit with the pigs then. “Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court.” Yeah that’s one of their worst traits, they’re fundamentally acting in bad faith all the time. That’s WHY they’re willing to do this McConnell bullshit. That’s why McConnell was willing to block Merrick Garland’s supreme court confirmation the way he did, and then do a 180 to push Trump’s nominee through. They DO. NOT. CARE. about acting in good faith.
To the extent that Democrats refrain from that kind of behavior I applaud them. You’re right a Republican Governor in this position would happily have pulled the trigger on this awhile ago because when they ask themselves “do I actually have the authority to do this thing? Can I do this thing without negative consequences?” they’re absolutely fine if only the second question can be answered with a yes.
Sure. Whether or not its constitutional, etc. is really beside the point. Any official challenge to the governor’s declaration would necessarily involve demonstrating that McConnell is alive and well (or not). In either outcome, the question of the governor’s authority would be moot.
My issue is that we now see how these types of actions aren’t punished, and it’s becoming a race to the bottom. I’m concerned the system will collapse, and not in the way that births a system that’s better for the world.
I don’t know what the best step forward is but I suppose it would be to come out on top during the race and hope for the best.
Yep, completely gutless/meaningless: “If the Senator is unable to respond for either of those or other conditions, consider this letter a demand for his Senate staff to be honest and transparent with the people of Kentucky.”
It should be a specific date and time when he’ll start the replacement process with a specific date and time when he expects the new person to be sworn in.
Yet, the Democratic governor of Kentucky continues to be a chicken-shit coward. He has the power to end this now, but he’s too much of a coward to do anything. He can simply declare the seat vacant by death or incapacitation and call for a special election. If McConnell still walks among the living, then he can show up in court to prove his health quite easily. It would be the quickest court case ever.
This is squarely on the hands of that sniveling coward Governor Beshear.
Can he actually?
Waaaah, but what if we caaaan’t? What if it doesn’t work? What if the courts just overrule it?
Who fucking cares if it doesn’t work? Try it anyway and quit being a god-damn child.
Let’s stop this limp-wristed, self-defeating, surrender-in-advance attitude. Here’s an idea. Try having a god damned backbone. Try it anyway and see if it sticks. As long as you have a half-decent legal theory, give it a go.
Liberals are shiftless cowards. Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court. Democrats second-guess themselves into paralysis.
You said he could and I was curious if that was an official thing he could do as a part of the process.
That’s all I was asking.
The problem is that the right just does the thing five fucking times over while the left wrings their hands about how they might be perceived for even considering the thing.
It works because they think the whole pearl clutching act from the right is genuine. It never fucking is. It’s a cudgel.
I’m not sure how this can ever be fixed because the left tends to genuinely care about doing things ethically. The right knows this and uses it. There’s no way to stop it without fundamentally changing our ethics (and losing our ideology in the process).
We have to be mindful of this strategy and stop giving the benefit of the doubt to people who abuse it as a means to an end. To literally kill people for being trans, for example.
If trump has taught me anything, it’s that lawmakers can do whatever the fuck they want and let the courts sort it out later. And then maybe ignore the courts anyway.
I love how criticize Republicans for doing certain things and then also Democrats for not doing those things.
Really makes a lot sense.
It seems lost a noun.
Jump down into the shit with the pigs then. “Republicans will happily try a dozen things out, expecting only one or two of them to hold up in court.” Yeah that’s one of their worst traits, they’re fundamentally acting in bad faith all the time. That’s WHY they’re willing to do this McConnell bullshit. That’s why McConnell was willing to block Merrick Garland’s supreme court confirmation the way he did, and then do a 180 to push Trump’s nominee through. They DO. NOT. CARE. about acting in good faith.
To the extent that Democrats refrain from that kind of behavior I applaud them. You’re right a Republican Governor in this position would happily have pulled the trigger on this awhile ago because when they ask themselves “do I actually have the authority to do this thing? Can I do this thing without negative consequences?” they’re absolutely fine if only the second question can be answered with a yes.
Historically it took killing millions to defeat fascism.
You’re not even willing to be a little rude.
Sure. Whether or not its constitutional, etc. is really beside the point. Any official challenge to the governor’s declaration would necessarily involve demonstrating that McConnell is alive and well (or not). In either outcome, the question of the governor’s authority would be moot.
My issue is that we now see how these types of actions aren’t punished, and it’s becoming a race to the bottom. I’m concerned the system will collapse, and not in the way that births a system that’s better for the world.
I don’t know what the best step forward is but I suppose it would be to come out on top during the race and hope for the best.
Yep, completely gutless/meaningless: “If the Senator is unable to respond for either of those or other conditions, consider this letter a demand for his Senate staff to be honest and transparent with the people of Kentucky.”
It should be a specific date and time when he’ll start the replacement process with a specific date and time when he expects the new person to be sworn in.
I wouldn’t like to be the guy that claimed mitch mcconnell was dead and then having to recuse myself because he comes to the court.
And I would get laughed at in the internet
Oh no better do nothing instead of risking being embarrassed then
Can you really be a DNC ghoul if you aren’t prepared to preserve decorum at the cost of everything else?
Why would you have to recuse yourself. Just say glad to see you’re alive Mitch and cancel the election.