• Kangae_HishiryoBanned from community
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    6 days ago

    What the fuck, I never defended the fucking rapists. What you’re doing is defamation.

    CW: SA and FA

    Hell, I’ve even been raped two fucking times in my life, one of them when I was a fucking child. I know what I’m talking about because I suffered that and also I have suffered of one false claim. Neither of the two are placid stuff.

    I’ve only been trying to nuance things a bit, because most of people jump directly to “trust the (supposed) victims even when there’s no single evidence”, and I can’t deffend that. But apparently that’s defending sexual abusers. But I’m not, I’m just defending the presumption of innocence: someone has to be considered innocent unless proven otherwise.

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        Yeah, and precisely because of that is that I say what I’m saying, because anything I have said supports rapists.

        Is by any case saying that rapists should live the same as their victims, but with added torture, something that a rapist supporter would say?

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          Is by any case saying that rapists should live the same as their victims, but with added torture, something that a rapist supporter would say?

          Now you’re supporting torture and cruel and unusual punishments.

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            Because they deserve it. Now you’re saying that a rapist has to be treated better than how they treated their victims? That’s not justice, and that makes their calculus of costs-benefits be always positive to them.

            This analogy illustrates it very well: you give just a minor reprimand for a child’s action everytime they form a tantrum, and they’ll learn that making a tantrum is not that bad because the worse they’ll get is a minor reprimand, not something lasting as being grounded.

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              6 days ago

              Rapists should not be infantilized and treated like they are children throwing a tantrum. Restorative justice is important.

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                I don’t know, I think that the behaviorism applies just perfectly to them, I think is rarely the occasion when such a scum will change to better, and that’s even worse when you take into account that most of these people are psychopaths, and/or sociopaths, and/or patologically narcissists, so they’ll also look for their own benefit and comfort, so restorative justice will be counterproductive to them.

                Maybe I’m being too extremists when it comes to justice, but I just hate these kind of people that freely cause harm to other people. The only acceptable harm is the one done in defense of the innocent. They won’t understand unless you pay them with the exact same coin they gave to you, because they’re already morally bankrupt and their brain is dysfunctional.