Not anytime soon. Because Dems capitulated hard and the bourgeois press got totally onboard with being outraged over this and lionizing Charlie the right is going to ride this as far as they can. They've already collected the scalp of Jimmy Kimmel. They're using it to cost anyone who speaks out against him their job. They plan to use it to hammer social media companies to force them to censor liberals (and anyone left of liberals). They're going to ride the outrage train on this one for months. Short of Democrats for some reason growing a titanium spine and/or big bourgeois press barons standing up to them and shutting it down I see no reason this can't continue through October.
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That was always desperate cope from people here who also deny this is a reichstag fire moment and that the Evangelicals and large portions of the right are genuinely a combination of sad, angry/furious, and triumphant/jubilant over this event and what it means in terms of their ability to demand censorship of the web and deplatforming of their enemies as well as create a chilling effect atmosphere all while loudly sobbing and playing the victims.
As I said, they will remember this for years. And if their push succeeds and it seems like it might with something like the Kimmel firing over an absolute nothing-burger, then we'll remember it for years too.
Maybe I’m just dooming but their rank and file seem to support this 100%.
Yeah sorry but Evangelicals are 100% behind this and 100% furious and crying and craving blood. Also I'd bet the debate-lord, rationalist type online-right of younger types is at least somewhat behind this kind of dishonest lionization because it owns the libs and lets them play victim and demand favorable conditions for their own "debates" and for their opponents to be censored and deplatformed, lets them collect scalps. They are salivating at getting Hasan finally for example as a result of this.
About the only people not for this are the respectable buttoned up business Republicans who regard it not so much going too far as a naked person covered in condiments acting like a chicken, it's curious, they don't understand it but they're going to keep walking or go with the flow.
There's of course your average person who isn't terminally online and not a terminal Fox News watcher or Evangelical who shrugs at this and thinks its odd but they're not likely to get in the way of the censorship push either as they don't know who Hasan is or care about all this debate of online fairness that much as to them online is funny grill memes and crime news.
Absolute weak shit.
China not looking good at all. Lots of things can be cast as biding their time or strategy but this is just straight up armed robbery of China that will embolden the US to do this again and again and given China's initial statements against US tariffs there is at some level an understanding of the idea that appeasing bullies only makes the bullying or robbery in this case worse.
The US will just do this again with whatever comes next.
All the people like "oh this will blow over" need to look at things like this. It's being whipped up into a big thing. The liberals are obediently going along with it, the bourgeois press has their marching orders and this action is clearly intended to send a message.
But it's just the start. This is part of a broader push to control and censor the internet. They've been trying to back-door it with porn ID laws and all kinds of obscure things but this gives them a chance to say the internet is radicalizing the youth into America-hating antifa terrorist extremists and therefore not only do we need ID laws for using online platforms but we need to repeal section 230, we need to outlaw encryption, we need to make all providers 100% legally liable for anything on their platforms even if they don't know about it.
It's part of the longer-term trend of creating a great western firewall and censorship machine to control the narrative ahead of the grand conflict with China which will not merely be some naval battle in the SCS but a world war with color revolutions, palace coups, invasions and military action, and much more to do the utmost to isolate China and pull as much of the world as they can into America's yard to be pillaged and have its wealth extracted. With worsening conditions in the imperial core and discontent among the youth about unemployment and life prospects the time has also come to put the police state into high gear as they're about to give the proles in the core even less loot while stripping the walls, voiding the basic societal compacts of government responsibility for things like basic infrastructure and so on.
I can't believe they actually sold it.
This only encourages the west's robber behavior. Any time China has any success they'll try and bully and strong-arm them into selling to the west with sanctions and threats. Major L move China. Losing a global influence platform just for the sake of making money off of US/western users. Sure if they'd stood fast they might have lost the US, EU, rest of the Anglo-verse but so what? The influence they'd still have in the rest of the world would be worth it.I hope they're only selling US operations and not selling the secret sauce algo. If they're doing that, that's a smart move to get some money and retain global rights and the secret sauce I suppose. Sucks for US users but hey need to fix your government rather than counting on China to resist it into doing good things for you.
The fear of many Ukrainians is that young men between 18 and 22 will now flee in large numbers, leaving the armed forces come 2027 with too few new recruits – and Ukraine, a country with severe demographic deficiencies, with too few people when the war ends. One 25-year-old woman told me that in her brother’s cohort of friends ages 18 to 22, most of them were planning to leave the country. She said the new law was wrongheaded and would hurt the war effort.
I honestly wonder if this wasn't a deliberate decision to try and save lives. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but might Zelensky or some Nazi in his government realize by now the west's plans to demographically destroy them in order to kill Russians and be trying to save some of their next generation with moves like this as they can't stop until they run out of people in the west's eyes but if they send most abroad they'll have something. Maybe even cynically deliberate now that they've press-ganged central and eastern Ukrainians who were more likely to support Russia, an attempt to get western more nationalist and Nazi friendly Ukrainians spared from the meat grinder on the front.
Fuck.
The facts are he was allegedly bi, dating a trans person, killed Kirk for his hate, his family will corroborate he was a "loony leftist" and blame the internet and college most likely for taking their best attempt at raising a chud and turning him into the person he ended up as who disagreed with them on politics. Given he didn't go on any rants about Jews or anything like that (the only other option being thinking Kirk hated white people for not being against the Jews enough) I think the chances are near zero he wasn't just a liberal or vaguely left type person. Probably didn't really have anything super concrete himself in terms of political ideology other than not wanting to be his parents, not agreeing with his parents and MAGA, etc which is good enough to call him a liberal/leftist unfortunately.
Nothing else really matters. This is the cold, hard, damning evidence the right needs to paint this as an assassination by a leftist. I guess we can be thankful he wasn't a member of a communist party and it seems unlikely he organized with antifa or other groups, and he didn't post a ton of overtly leftist political stuff for them to show around but he'll be painted as antifa anyways (the anti-fascist song inscription on the bullet seals that) and this will be used as an example of liberal/left "intolerance" and violence against the "totally peaceable" right.
All these attempts at nuance are not strong enough and take too much thought and good faith. The right will be able to successfully blast out that he was a radicalized liberal-leftist who hated conservatives, was part of some imagined by the right "violent trans" agenda or movement they're trying to conjure up. The likely interviews from his family where the ridiculous hogs bray about how he was a radical and changed from a good little chudlet into a crazed leftist (as defined by Fox News) will be blasted around likely by all the usual bourgeois press. The liberal conclusion will be we need to tackle "online radicalization no matter what ideology" and the right will take that and run with it to force censorship of the left on major platforms, force major platforms to feed more automated reporting data on anyone talking in too leftist a manner to the police state priority flagged, etc.
Considering what we've already heard of discord pro-actively giving police info on people buying t-shirts and cops calling them in a chilling effects way it's concerning. And explains why they're harping on the online angle so much because that's seemingly the goal here.
I've admittedly been looking for some sort of zionist connection or intelligence operation since this whole thing blew up so big and stayed big. The zionists would want him dead if his alleged turning on them over campus speech and Palestine was real (big if), Trump and the nat-sec state would want him dead as a martyr for the right and an excuse to clamp down on the internet and real life and push through more draconian control as well as distract from the various issues they have (Epstein). So if there is some way of doing that they'd definitely have reason to whack little Charlie as he wasn't really that important and his death probably does more for the movement to seize control of colleges than him living another 50 years ever could have. So we have one dead reactionary who is more useful in death than in life, one shooter whose actions make little sense.
Of course there is the consideration this person was either a groyper/Nazi or a leftist but had great opsec, hid that part of themselves effectively (including from friends and family) and left nothing for investigators to find to concretely tie them to their ideological motivation.
More like recuperation.
And the commodification of revolution as a spectacle. It's a well-worn western practice where they act out revolutionary things so you can passively consume and cheer for these things without ever enacting them. Your frustrations and feelings sated by fictional characters acting out revolutionary acts for you while you sit in your underwear eating snacks and nodding at your friends about how this is so based and cool. You leave feeling satisfied, the right message is getting out there you think and so do others and they figure society will transform itself with messages like these.
That isn't to say the intent of the writers was that (maybe it was, I don't know) but it's how it functions.
Interesting, but it's only 65 people. A symbolic amount as a gesture, not a real action of participation in any level. You could easily send twice that amount and still have them standing on the sides out of the way watching things.
Also curious how that site fails to maintain all caps for NATO. It's an acronym like the UN so should always be capitalized so we always remember to read it as Nazi Arming Terrorist Organization.
Worrying if not stuck down by courts. This could be a move further than even the UK's criminalization of Palestine Action (and consequently anyone protesting for Palestine being swept up in it). Mainly in that any leftist demonstration can instantly be labeled a riot by "antifa terrorists" and goons sent in to arrest all present and perhaps even worse case ship them off to black sites or CECOT without rights for torture. It would also of course be a short hop and skip from this to totally freezing and seizing the finances of communist parties and other left groups as affiliates of "antifa" and thus materially supporting terrorism.
Hasan getting whacked would be a huge blunder for the fascist because they flourish by posing as the victims. Kirk got whacked by a groyper yet they're able to blame this on the radical left because it's a plausible reality that he could have gotten killed by the radical left, they can pretend to be in the high ground by preaching the no place for political violence choir.
Not really? The fascists and liberal media have no shame or intellectual consistency. They would highlight what Hasan said about 9/11, claim he advocated for violence, point to pictures of him streaming with a gun in frame, frame him as a radical America hating, white man hating commie and say though violence isn't the answer it's totally understandable why some sweet normal, not at al political killer covered in 1488 and swastika tats would be driven by Hasan's HATE SPEECH into killing him in a fit of passion. (That or they cast it as a senseless killing in the vein of school shooters and nothing to see here folks) They'd slander him like this, cast it like this, and immediately bury his death in the same way they bury and stop talking about school shooting victims within 24 hours.
In a bourgeois press owned reactionary society like the US there is no need for consistency, naked hypocrisy buried under cherry picking, half truths, omissions, and slander buries the truth and pushes forward the desired narrative framing.
At most a few liberals while condemning Hasan in their first breath will call for more gun control and less political violence to which the right will respond with a middle finger and outraged screaming about Charlie Kirk and attempted assassinations on Trump before veering into talking about "violent protestors from the left" who target the "brave" ICE and local police proving the left is the truly violent one. The then cowed liberals will fall bashfully silent and apologize the next day for undermining the tragedy of Charlie Kirk's death.
Can't wait for congress to authorize private contractors to buy and hold some of the nation's nukes as the push to privatize everything and strip the state to the bones enters its final stretch in a decade.
And then they start using them...
Are all Evangelicals activists under this model?
Because they are RILED up by it and there are objectively tens of millions of people who not only check that box but are fully checked into the propaganda machine and not indifferent. I grant there are some who check that Evangelical box on the survey who don't give a shit but there are probably a few ten millions at least who do given my own relatives aren't extraordinarily special in that demographic and they are wound up pretty high on freaking out. It's definitely reinforced and driven by reactionary propaganda, Fox News, influencers, FB algorithms, etc but it's only partially synthetic.
That, the story someone posted here of a raging chud starting to scream at them over disrespecting his death at their job and being sent home by the manager. Clearly real people are experiencing real emotions even if manipulated and whipped up by the media. Evangelicals in particular see him as their own boy, their connection to the youth, their beloved gen-z whisperer who was totally winning kids over to conservatism and Christ on the godless liberal commie college campuses by epically owning and debating them just like in God's Not Dead.
If you're not seeing it it's probably because your sphere doesn't include a lot of these people or they're bottling it up in the interactions you have with them (professional for example) but expressing it online or at home.
So maybe not a majority but a very big minority, perhaps 1/10 or 1/15 any of those still being huge numbers.
Terrifying stuff. The US 100% has plans for starting a nuclear war that involve infiltrating small nukes into China, some probably possibly already smuggled in and network connected. I'm sure this plan came about around the same time in the late 2000s that they started freaking out about smuggling of mini-nukes into the US and spent a ton of money on outfitting ports with radiation detectors (actually what caught the Walmart radioactive shrimp). Absolutely deranged evil empire.
The thing is the left disdains to be dishonest. For us words mean things. For us truth means things. For us facts mean things. We intend to improve our lives through objectively better systems and decisions. The fascists and reactionaries can afford to lie because their actual goals are abhorrent so must be cloaked in excuses and other language.
The fact is also the reactionaries can lie because their followers enjoy it, because they are in power because capital is in power, because they're not held to account and because they don't value facts. Giving up one of our most notable differences between them and ourselves in that we are honest, they are dishonest, we care about facts and evidence, they don't seems foolish.
Is there some value in strategic deceptions? Yes. But not bald-faced lying against the entire bourgeois media machine with things that leave you easily dunked on. At that point you begin retreating into pride and start spiraling into accepting more and more lies to save face, to not challenge your beliefs rigorously, and to sink into a hole of conspiracy and wild supposition that drives people away from you.
If you fight a war based on lies the right will win. They are more experienced. They have a century of lies to draw on, they have the high ground of owning all the platforms, the media, of bourgeois academics being sympathetic to them and steeped in liberal orthodoxy.
And the thing is we'll never have a media machine capable of shouting down the right. Shouting and screaming that he was a fascist if he was indeed a communist won't convince Trump, won't convince the Trump justice department, won't convince judges, won't convince cable anchors, won't reach your average person. It's self-deception whereas the right's deception at least is broadcast and amplified and built on a series of foundations where it actually deceives others, it muddies the waters enough to frustrate their enemies in liberals because they're liberals.
Get something with port forwarding if you want to torrent. Unless the only things you'll ever be downloading are the latest TV shows within days of their release or the latest movies you'll sooner or later run into connectivity problems.
If you're in or intend to be in a private tracker. Get a VPN with port forwarding, anything that sabotages your connectivity could be a death sentence to your ability to stay in that private tracker by hurting your ability to get a good ratio via uploading to others.
Mullvad does not allow port forwarding period so it is not good for the use case of torrenting.
Proton does allow port forwarding but only for the purposes of torrenting on their special p2p servers.
My opinion is all VPNs are deep cover intelligence operation honeypots. Only reason they're allowed to exist and run and shrug at keeping "no logs" for copyright trolls.
I would avoid those like PIA that are zionist owned and whose profits benefit zionist firms obviously.
So my suggestions would be either:
- ProtonVPN for the port forwarding
- AirVPN for port forwarding (tends to be cheaper than proton, has been around a long time, has sales throughout the year with meaningful discounts)
- Your VPN of choice plus a paid seedbox (additional $8-$20/month)
One more thing. If you end up just running a torrent client, set qBittorrent's advanced settings to bind to your VPN's network adapter to prevent leaks. If you're running docker or a stack solution there are things like gluetun.
edit: Someone else mentioned it so I will too. There will be Black Friday say in 2.5 months or less so extend your current VPN or buy a small amount then buy a larger amount like a year at that point. If you like the VPN you can re-up at the next sale for longer.
Well it would give them potentially powerful forward radar surveillance of part of China. Plus signals intelligence, listening, hacking. Plus let's be honest a forward operating base for spies, "moderate rebel" terrorist collaborators, etc.