Unless you're wealthy or incredibly well connected with the right kinds of friends who own or can get you hidden on a boat or plane.
The usual paths all require a passport to at least get to a country bordering China and then go across the land border. Just to get in a position where you don't need to cross an ocean like a trek from say France to China over land still requires a passport from the US to get that far. Your options without a passport unless you have or can charter a private plane willing to break some serious laws in terms of filing flight plans and pretending to be domestic only before darting across the ocean or having a yacht capable of cross-ocean navigation (and getting lucky the US coast guard/navy don't pick you up) are basically limited to fleeing to Canada, Mexico, and Latin/South America.
And if you don't make it all the way, get deported by any country along the way back to the US any of these options would leave you facing serious charges and probably deported to a concentration camp but certainly stripped of many more rights as a felon and "suspected smuggler/terrorist" as clearly by not having a passport because of being designated a terrorist sympathizer but breaking the law to travel anyways you must be a really dangerous terrorist and thus should go right to gitmo or CECOT.
It has broken the brains of older Evangelicals. They are besides themselves with grief and (for the moment impotent and somewhat directionless) rage, it's like as to a devout catholic as if the pope was assassinated or if someone had shot Billy Graham on live TV. Their whole world is shook. All the act of being persecuted and woe is us and all that and suddenly they realize it can get a lot worse and it works them up into a sobbing, red-faced frenzy because they cannot accept this happening to them and for the first time they can actually truly FEEL and act the victim and be validated for it somewhat by liberals. After years, decades of their lives spent being dishonest, claiming aggrievement and persecution when there was none they finally have one and it's an emotional high they can hardly handle.
They are going to remember this for years, decades. Like 9/11.
It's a little concerning how much staying power the TP guy's shooting has. I mean obviously the right was going to milk it for at least a week or two but they're really, really harping on it HARD and the rest of the media is marching dutifully behind them in this and they're really doing a full showing with doxxing and firing people.
It really does feel like a 9/11 type moment, a real shift has taken place that didn't take place when Trump was nearly assassinated and hasn't taken place in response to any other kind of shooting in the US. Nearest comparison might be after that shooting in an elementary school when all those really young kids were murdered and the liberals were like "this time there will definitely be change" and the chuds just responded with "nope" and that was that. But this time the chuds are marching with it and the liberals are dutifully following, the commentator class which includes every cable TV reporter and a ton of local ones are freaking the fuck out at the idea of hateful speech and violent political rhetoric having consequences. Murdering innocent kids for no reason just because you're upset is fine and normal in this country but this is apparently an aberration we need to shut down now and severely punish anyone happy or even blithe about it.
I'm even a tad surprised it's supplanted that much more horrific, chilling, objectively stomach-churning awful murder of that Ukrainian woman which unlike Kirk was truly chilling in the intensity and duration of the attack, violence, suffering, and death and the societal indifference of the disinterest of bystanders in intervening. Doubtless the reactionaries are going to run with both to argue we need to murder the homeless, get rid of non-whites, suppress and crush the left, and put god back in schools but the spectacle of the level of wailing and demands (which are met by liberals) for tears and canonizing of the TP guy as a saint is just a little startling even to me.
I guess we'll see, if this is still going by end of Monday I think we're really through the looking glass, if it's over by then and we can only hope it is then maybe it was all just an over the top spectacle by the reactionaries. I just really hope the shooter's politics cannot be established as even vaguely left and that they weren't in a romantic relationship with any trans people (instantly viewed as a leftist no matter what by the right and a further excuse to focus hate on trans people).
Literally holding their vote on a western intelligence controlled platform (discord). Clown hours. CIA could have spun up tens of thousands of persona management bot profiles run by 20 people in army psyops to influence that in no time at all to say nothing of just straight up altering the vote totals.
People here seem to forget the right has a whole media ecosystem. If they don't follow Vance or Don jr it doesn't fucking matter. That just means they follow what Fox News or the other reactionary streamers now stealing Charlie's audience say instead and they all echo broadly the same thing. They all get on the same page to say you know that trans people should be killed or you know the dems are communists and make america great and China is bad and be racist to asian people. Some slight differences but they're all tentacles of the same broad tent of funders and though there might be some brief struggling the bourgeoisie know how to coalesce around some core red meat issues to keep the hogs marching to their tune until the next big thing comes along to steer the ship totally.
Well I mean look, it's an anonymous source to the grayzone, a left-leaning publication. It wouldn't shock me for groypers, reactionaries, etc to intentionally lie like that especially to a left anti-imperialist org to advance their agenda, muddy the waters, or just have what they think in their irony-poisoned way is fun. There's a lot of reasons to be skeptical as it fits the narrative of a certain segment of the online right who are in a war with the rest of the right over support for zionists and pissrael and they 100% would not be above lying.
I haven't followed Kirk closely enough to know if these claims about a recent change in him are true and validated by existing sources but if they are it lends credence to the idea. Still, right now the alleged shooter in custody is either some sort of vaguely lefty irony-poisoned person or a even more deranged fascist groyper who intentionally wrote lefty things on his bullet casings to misdirect cops. Either way there's misdirection going on around this as various parties try to seize the narrative and his death in the name of their own movement and shape the outcome for their own benefit.
This is very interesting IF TRUE. We'll have to see if they guy they have arrested looks like a patsy as things unfold but it seems awfully convenient to punch his lights out just as he was starting to turn on them, make him a martyr for the wider cause in death and tamp down on all the infighting. A kind of Pat Tillman thing.
This place had a discord community/lifeboat before the website came up and as I understand it's still around to say nothing of various other ones. It's largely an age thing, younger people have this incredible addiction to that platform like boomers with Facebook, they just can't avoid using it and end up using it for all kinds of things they really shouldn't.
There are tons of young people who would do that. It's an age thing. Zoomers love they discord and can't get off it just as boomers love they facebook and can't get off it. I think using facebook is an incredibly bad move yet people here admit to it. I think using facebook and being in lefty groups on it is even more wild yet people here admit to it and do it.
Let's not forget. Initially the lifeboat was a discord group after /r/CTH got banned. People were in there for some time before this website was brought up.
Anyways it doesn't matter. If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, can be spun as a duck, there's no plausible explanation otherwise (and no, weird claims its some esoteric groyper nazi feud that "ironically" uses an incredibly well known anti-fascist song is not going to stick with what the Trump admin is pushing, with what cops will want to push, and with what the media will push given it helps crackdown on pro-palestine movement, no one is going to look that deep or care and I don't personally believe it either given the other messages) we're fucked.
Liberals aren't going to care for your "but it couldn't have been a leftist and here's why" because it gets them out of the dog house, they can disavow and condemn and the target moves off them, chuds aren't going to care because they want to attack the left and blame the left, government doesn't care because it's intent on blaming the left. It's screaming into the void at this point.
The snitch was their dad and friend who was contacted by the dad. They likely didn't do it for the money but because they're obedient slave mentality Mormons and chuds. So they won't be annoyed. The dad if he's at all human will be sad his son is gonna get executed by the state and angry that he killed a good chud like him in Kirk and is gonna blame the internet and college liberals for "radicalizing my good Mormon chud boy into an antifa". Considering the friend only acted after the dad contacted them I doubt they did it for the money either but for similar goober law-abiding reasons.
No you're fine. The person you're replying to is just being weird and self-censoring when they don't need to and using obscure terminology. They really shouldn't do that.
Meanwhile I had a very happy day the other day. I felt really uplifted and strangely good and I still have this afterglow. Maybe try not being horrible people with power that use it only for ill thus gaining enemies and living a life that will leave no one but your family and donors missing you. Idk.
Just too on the nose. "israel" runs Jeffery Epstein sexual blackmail ring and traffics underage girls. They then also run cover organization dedicated to "helping" victims of that kind of stuff. Makes it much more believable that something is going on to my brain.
Good general counter-surveillance advice from Gene Hackman in "Enemy of the State": Don't look up.
That's where the spy satellites are, it's where the surveillance drones are, that's where the cameras are looking at you from 95% of the time.
If you look down they have a much worse angle of your face in most instances (not valid when descending a staircase with a camera pointed up at the stairs from the bottom but that's not that common IMO and even then they'll probably get a worse shot of you if you actually stare straight down at your feet than look up or ahead). This is significantly enhanced by wearing a hat with a brim/bill and of course further enhanced by wearing sunglasses and a mask over your lower face though if the angle is right your lower face being uncovered won't matter because all they'll have is a very bad angle shot of your upper face with the lower face geometry obscured beyond something very basic like full-faced vs average/thin.
They don't need satellites. They have Automated License Plate Recognition Systems by evil companies like flock that have laughably dystopian stated goals like "creating a crime free world" by tracking every vehicle everywhere and creating a national searchable database of ping points that they passed. And they're expanding wildly, explosively year over year in the number of these they have deployed.
They are for the cops, for the reactionaries/rightists, for the imperial state, they are attempting to avoid being targeted by disavowing. Also I guess part of liberal norms policing, liberals detest un-sanctioned violence. To reign in any impulses among their base to maybe sympathize with this and similar acts which might in the end result in them questioning liberalism as a whole.
It's more like flag this to vendors of automated facial recognition software. Get every Walmart, every Target, tons of third party vendors to look for a face matching this one and send hits on to the FBI. The FBI then requests more footage if they fit, they then run gait recognition on the new surveillance and the footage they have. They then narrow down where the person lives and shops and focus in on it.
So it's not that they have every sidewalk and street under cameras. It's that a normal person has to go out into places with cameras eventually. Some people can avoid it more than others like those who work from home full-time, pay to have groceries home delivered, etc. But eventually they may slip up, they go to the hardware store (Lowes and HD are huge on surveillance) for a home repair or to the bank to fix an account issue or whatever. You basically have to live completely off-grid OR you have to be like Gene Hackman in Enemy of the State, constantly aware of where cameras are and avoiding them or taking measures to prevent them seeing your face like hats, not looking up, face masks, etc.
You don't in all likelihood.
Unless you're wealthy or incredibly well connected with the right kinds of friends who own or can get you hidden on a boat or plane.
The usual paths all require a passport to at least get to a country bordering China and then go across the land border. Just to get in a position where you don't need to cross an ocean like a trek from say France to China over land still requires a passport from the US to get that far. Your options without a passport unless you have or can charter a private plane willing to break some serious laws in terms of filing flight plans and pretending to be domestic only before darting across the ocean or having a yacht capable of cross-ocean navigation (and getting lucky the US coast guard/navy don't pick you up) are basically limited to fleeing to Canada, Mexico, and Latin/South America.
And if you don't make it all the way, get deported by any country along the way back to the US any of these options would leave you facing serious charges and probably deported to a concentration camp but certainly stripped of many more rights as a felon and "suspected smuggler/terrorist" as clearly by not having a passport because of being designated a terrorist sympathizer but breaking the law to travel anyways you must be a really dangerous terrorist and thus should go right to gitmo or CECOT.
Shit is grim.