Thank you for not contributing with anything meaningful to the conversation, I guess!

I am not referring to a string you hold, I am referring to a leash like this:

I find them dehumanizing and humiliating because they remind me of a dog leash. Look, people parent differently across the world, I remember a British-Indian comedian who was married to a Dane who said that every parenting practice she regarded as healthy and appropriate was basically illegal in Denmark.

The leash will never not be weird to me, but it is what it is. I don’t think everyone who uses a leash is literally going to treat their kid like a dog, I know they probably love and cherish their kids like I cherish mine, but the fact remains that it feels off to me and I’d say most other people from my neck of the woods.

Lemmy, like reddit, skews American and you’re referring to Europe as well, Europe, which tells me you’re not European. You’re welcome to correct me, of course.

Even if you’ve seen leashes on all continents, they’re definitely super rare and not common now. If you decide to be informative instead of assertive you are welcome to educate me on your experiences and expand on which fronts exactly I am wrong and why.

One of my co-workers expatriated to Sweden for a few years. There were tweens just hopping on the bus and going to the museum miles away. But I get the feeling that one could trust the average Swede would prevent harm to a child from a pedophile.

In contrast to what many people think, Nordic people are fairly strict with what kids are allowed to do when they are small. We spend a lot of time and effort to ensure that kids are well behaved and can be trusted and don’t act out when they are small, and then, gradually, they are allowed more freedom as they grow older. By the time they’re young teenagers we generally feel like they’ve demonstrated that they can be trusted and they are often allowed to bike or take the bus around town and live with a lot more freedom.

Maybe you’re thinking “Duh, that’s how everyone does it!”, but the reason I mention it is that I’ve experienced that many cultures do it differenty; when the kids are young they are allowed a lot of freedom and very little responsibility, then as they grow older their parents will restrict them more and more. It’s pretty much the opposite of the Nordic approach.

We’re veering off course (or I am, at least), but I find the differences in parenting across cultures very fascinating.

One commenter said that the leashes are for safe toddler independence, not control, and I guess I can see that. It makes sense, even if it would be cultural taboo in my part of the world.

In the '80s and earlier, corporal punishment was regular and expected. There was a push in the '90s to stop the corporal punishment.

Corporeal punishment was outlawed in Denmark by 1997, but was definitely frowned upon much earlier than that. My grandparent’s generation - born in the 1920s and 1930s - was likely the last generation where it was commonly used.

I mean, our kids can be little brats as well - and our kids are also prone to run off and do dumb stuff, but apparently we handle it differently. And I am fairly certain that my initial reaction - that it’s dehumanizing and humiliating - is how it comes off to almost all Nordic parents.

Your American mum bringing a leash over and using it on you somewhere in Europe 51 years ago hardly makes me wrong on all fronts.

Jeg bor i Tilst, Lisbjerg er muligvis en upgrade. Med mindre man er vild med at gå i Bauhaus!

Lad mig tage en rumraket til lisbjerg

Hvorfor Lisbjerg?!?! Hvad skal man i Lisbjerg?

Derudover støtter jeg flere bådzeppelinere til folket

So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don’t exist anywhere but in the US, so…

I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don’t run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

I don’t know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can’t the US?

Jeg køber ikke oksekød mere, det er simpelthen for dyrt. Desuden er lyst kød bedre for klimaet, så…

Ja, det er noget vrøvl. Hvis jeg skulle forklare det ville jeg sige at det er en gratis og frivilligt udviklet udgave at office-pakken med Word, Excel, osv. Det tænker jeg selv min mor kan forstå.

Ja, jeg ved ikke om jeg vil sige den er god god, men den er i det mindste interessant og anderledes!

Jeg har også diskuteret det med en kollega, og Ubuntu/Mint (privat amerikansk firma) virker ikke fornuftigt, RedHat er svjv fra Sydafrika. Hvad med openSUSE? Tysk, så vidt jeg ved.

Mon ikke det “bare” er et pilotprojekt til intern erfaringsopsamling, som man så kan handle ud fra. Det er da på sin vis forfriskende at man ikke tror man skal have det hele regnet ud fra starten i et IT-projekt.

Fra den tilsvarende Politiken-artikel:

“Digitaliseringsminister Caroline Stage (M) vil fra næste måned begynde at udfase Microsoft i sit eget ministerium. Planen er, at omkring halvdelen af medarbejderne om en måneds tid og hen over sommeren skal arbejde med computere, hvor styresystemet Windows er skiftet ud med en version af Linux og Office 365 er erstattet af Libre Office. Hvis det går som forventet, vil hele ministeriet være fri af Microsoft i løbet af efteråret.”

Vi har 4 indenfor - mad, restaffald, papir, plastik - og så glas og metal osv. udenfor. Det er ikke specielt elegant, men de 4 kan være under vasken og det går lige.

Mon ikke det går? :) Tror bare den optræder som cross-posted, så, gør den ikke?

Prøv noget anderledes, fx Døgnkioskmennesket af Sayaka Murata. Eller ‘Mente i det’ af Thomas Korsgaard.

Kan også virkeligt anbefale Alice Munro - hun skriver noveller, men der er lige så meget mening i en af hendes noveller som der er i mange bøger, det er sådan nogle man lige går og fordøjer nogle dage.

Er Pyrus begyndt at drikke igen? 😉

Enig i begge dele.

Det er også ret nemt at sige til folk de skal droppe bilerne når man selv bor i byen tæt ved alting og ikke har fx børn eller tunge ting der skal transporteres.

Jeg synes det ville være dejligt hvis jeg kunne droppe bilen, men det giver hverken økonomisk eller praktisk mening, og jeg bor endda et sted med ok offentlig transport. Det er jo ikke fordi jeg bare elsker at bruge tusindvis af kroner på en dum metalkasse på hjul.