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    90% of the democratic base is against further support for Israel. Elected Democrats ignore 90% of their own fucking voters and then have the gall to call this an “insurgency.” Bitch, you’re the insurgents. Moneyed interests slipped you into these seats to act as saboteurs in their war against democracy, and you’re pitching a temper tantrum now that the grift is coming undone.

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      The MIC needs Israel as a proxy customer.

      Both parties need to be on board for that to work.

      What happens when Israel loses support…? If establishment Democrats get ousted? My personal opinion is a bunch of character assassination on opponents of Israel, possible rigged elections, new laws against criticising israel (despite America’s constitution lol) and eventually if that doesn’t work, a new false flag terrorist attack to try and garner sympathy for Israel.

      “See! Those filthy Arab barbarians do attacks like this against us all the time! Send us more weapons and money!”

      Not a lot of people know this but Zionists were celebrating on 9/11. They were cheering because they knew what it meant for them as a proxy.

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    Israel is literally in the process of co-opting the entire US government. This should be the only issue people vote on until the terrorist bastards are rooted out entirely.

    Centrist dems will never understand that, because the only thing they do understand is cashing donor checks.

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      Israel is literally in the process of co-opting the entire US government. This should be the only issue people vote on until the terrorist bastards are rooted out entirely.

      I wouldn’t say the only issue – there are a lot of treasonous, fascist, criminal MAGAs to excise too – but considering how much overlap there is between the two problems it’s not really a dilemma to vote in a way that addresses both at once. (At least in the primaries, anyway.)

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        (At least in the primaries, anyway.)

        that would make sense to me if the primary was a fair and democratic process, but its also captured and the DNC have tampered with the primary process in the past, and I bet they will again. They dont care about democracy any more than the republicnas do. If a genocider wins the dem seat in the primaries I’m leaving the entry blank in the general or voting 3rd party. If the DNC forces us into a “genocide or the place burns” hostage situation since they control the primary apparatus, then its time we burn it. If we are any sort of good people at all we cant let our funding of genocide continue for yet another 4 years.

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          The DNC have put up competent leaders against an increasingly incompetent voting public. Is that “tampering” to you? DO you mean when they switched midgame to wedge in Kamala midstream because they saw the writing on the wall with Biden and didn’t whole-hog with him and you stayed home because she wasn’t primaried? ARe we really doing this? BIllionaire social media megamachines then amplified manufactured dissent online disproportionate to real discussions with real people? Your broad opinion parroted by others many places online but not in the same frequency of discussions in any real life discussions I’ve had as well is not entirely wrong and I’m not dismissing it was unprecedented but the general reaction of revolt our only chance at opposition party to burn it down mid fucking race in the last leg of election year did amplify to give us Trumps 2nd term too! Think about this. Congratulations, you played yourself.

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            The DNC have put up competent leaders against an increasingly incompetent voting public.

            that utter BS. Biden was not a “competent” leader and neither was Harris. The genocide suppport and bungled campaigns by both of them prove that amply. Thats not even going into their many failures to understand the other pressures on the voters, which they dumbly ignored. Both stayed away from Epstein instead of capitalizig on it. And Biden did not trump-proof the place on his way out like he should have. Incompetence.

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      Ted Cruz is so fucking slimy that when people question him about his allegiance with Israel instead of America he gets angry

      It appears to be what caused him to say that Tucker Carlson is the greatest threat to America

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    My response to such a remark would be, “No, I’m not a child, and that’s not the only thing that’s important to me. But it is important to me, so thank you for telling me I don’t have to listen to you anymore for this election cycle.”

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    “If this the only issue that you care about is this issue”

    Is that an exact quote?

    Because oddly enough, another issue I care about is having political leaders that make sense when they talk.

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      The quote is when she got flustered after being asked in person about Israel. She was indeed a little flummoxed and had a hard time getting her words out at her constituent.

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      This just how people talkin now, alright be that with you on the talkin? We all gotta communicate what we do with you talking too - so ass long as we do understand each over it’s alright.

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        Right now one has the time to have for having then made more sense over time then less because the truth is we haven’t anymore for anyone and it really doesn’t matter as long as long ass times make up for all the ones that didn’t

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    why would a candidate ever say “don’t vote for me”. this is like political communication 101.

    huge keir “you can leave” starmer energy.

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      Frankly, it is an honest thing to say. I’m absolutley fine with politicians having conviction and transparency about their opinions, whether or not they win them elections. If their stance is not going to change and that is one of or the biggest concern for you, I think it is good that she let you know that she would not be a good representative for your goals.

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      She’s been in that since 1997. That’s nearly 30 years in a safe Dem district (D+29). She thought she was untouchable.

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      The idea is to convey that she feels the position is insignificant enough that it doesn’t matter.

      Weird position given that the vast majority of Democrats actually do care about this issue and have a completely different opinion from the DNC in general. That is such an obvious vulnerability that its pretty weird the DNC isn’t doing something about it. But I guess Israel pays them enough to be willing to lose elections.

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      Haha I remember when he said that, the fool. Typical from the son of a toolmaker, whatever the hell that was supposed to mean

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      It’s worth remembering this is a person that has been in the same spot on the ballot for 30 years.