The democratic socialist Melat Kiros unseated the long-serving US representative Diana DeGette in Colorado’s primary elections held on Tuesday, the latest in a string of high-profile victories for the party’s insurgent left.
The Associated Press reported that Kiros had defeated DeGette for the Democratic nomination in the deep-blue first congressional district centered on Denver. Kiros’s triumph came a week after New York voters unseated two Democratic congressional incumbents and replaced a third who was retiring with candidates who had campaigned on standing up to Israel amid accusations that it was carrying out a genocide in Gaza.
You’ve hit upon and described exactly how influence operations work. Well done. Remember when the russians intentionally leveled a building full of children that had “Children” written in big letters on the front lawn because we naïvely thought russians wouldn’t slaughter children for fun? There was no strategic benefit, they just wanted to slaughter children.
Fortunately, the wise and leftist-supporting editors at The Guardian reminded everyone of that when publishing this pro-russian screed. Oh wait, they didn’t? Well look at that. Maybe they really are leftist-supporting then.
That’s a red herring. I never detracted from the atrocities russia has committed, and neither did the author of that opinion piece. They squarely blamed russia for indiscriminate killings of civilians in Ukraine.
Literally all he said is that Ukraine should be careful to minimize civilian casualties in their retaliatory efforts. He didn’t say they shouldn’t retaliate. He didn’t say “oh but it’s fine when russia does it.”
Your entire argument is based on a mischaracterization and a strawman.
It’s in the fucking article, you dunce. Apparently you didn’t read it.
Russia is not leftist.
Au contraire. That’s the whole of the piece. Protect russia from what it’s been doing to others for longer than WWII.
They have done nothing but that. To even suggest they haven’t is outrageous bullshit. And the news corp The Guardian knows this very well.
Of course not. That would give the game away. Hell, MAGA-level intellects would start to suspect it was a pro-russia piece if he did that.
I will give you $5 (five) American dollars for you to make a post on some popular lemmy.ml comm and say that. They’re up in politics and politicalmemes and news and a bunch of other comms with that as a given in their own minds every day. It’s a constant. Fuck, go define a liberal position to them on here and watch them turn inside out with self-righteous rage.
The russia supporters on .ml and our venerable Southampton professor have something in common. And The Guardian is helping them spread it around. In large part because they are a corporate entity. Which was my point all along. ProPublica’s not publishing that garbage, and why not? Because they don’t have to.
Fuck tankies, half of them are paid russian trolls and bot accounts posing as leftists. That doesn’t make russia a leftist country. Most actual leftists hate tankies, and it’s quite fun to shit on them whenever they venture into leftist spaces that aren’t protected by their tankie bubble.
The southampton professor was not making a tankie argument though, and if you can’t see the difference, I can’t help you.
As for the rest, I’ve already addressed it, and I feel no need to continue beating a dead horse.
I disagree, but that’s ok, I can see how one might consider his position to be simply humanistic or simply anti-war.
That’s why it’s important to note the professor’s argument isn’t the only element in the article. The fact that The Guardian published it, how, and when they did, are all equal if not more significant elements. All of them combined make it a pro-russian article which is exactly why it was correctly called out by the first people I quoted linking to it.
All the “red herrings” and “strawmen” you see are part-and-parcel of propaganda as it is performed today. Plausible deniability is how the three-letter-agencies used to say it.