• schmorp@slrpnk.net
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    6 days ago

    Living inside any of those lines doesn’t seem to guarantee that. ‘People on the other side’ is a story the powerful have been telling us for years. What if they start a war and nobody attends?

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      6 days ago

      This is the real world, you don’t get guarantees, you get what you have and you have to work with that.

      Refusing to engage with any system that doesn’t meet your definition of perfect is - and I hate to use this word but there’s no other way to describe it - childish.

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        Sometimes stubborn grandmas have to go sit in front of tanks if change is to happen in this real world full of real men and their real weapons.

        Childish is that you believe you have to be stuck forever in the reality that presents itself to you. Direct action means saying ‘No’ to what you don’t want directly.

        A refusal to engage is engagement as well.

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          You work to change the reality, but you still live in the reality you have now.

          I want to end capitalism, but I still buy food and pay rent, because I currently live in capitalism. You don’t get to opt out of reality.

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            I live in the reality I have now following my convictions - that means if that kills me it does. That’s what convictions are.

            You seem so desperately wanting to deny me my opting out of reality, telling me I don’t get to opt out. Who are you to tell me what I get to opt out of? Or to tell me what reality is in the first place? I only engage with what I want to engage with. And if it knocks on my door with guns? Well shoot me, if that’s what humanity has to offer I don’t want my place in it anyways. It probably would help non-humans a lot if we all perished. I assure you I’m not that gloomy in real life.

            Disclaimer: I try to survive in this stupid timeline just like the next person, painfully aware that currently we are all complicit in genocide and murder for the sake of our comfort and our habits, not just in Gaza (which is just one of many ghosts in Capitalism’s haunted house). The last bit of moral ground I feel I have is that I can loudly proclaim that I will not be sent to war.

            Kind of answering to both your answers here. Capitalism sucks, but at least don’t let them send you off to kill and get killed.

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              The laws of gravity do not exist to deny you your right to fly.

              Reality is. It does not care about your feelings on the matter.

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          I really like this response.

          Sorry, I don’t think I should buy into myths about how the regular people in enemy countries want to eat babies or whatever so that rich people can have more 🤷‍♀️