“long live Europe” ignores exploitation in the service industry in Europe. That’s not “whataboutism”.
= responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation
I’m not deflecting the accusation from the Americans
Yes you are. You didn’t dicuss the topic. You have “forum slided” into definitions of whataboutism.
Whataboutery is to say “the accusation does not stand because the accuser is also guilty”.
Because you are trying to move the goalposts away from US tipping culture towards a broader service topic where Europe is also guilty.
Let’s see if you can stay on topic.
Tips are taxed in Europe, but not in the US. That is why there is a difference. It’s not culture. It’s government policy.
You take my words out of context, you willfully ignore the meaning of words you use to accuse me, you throw random accusations again while ignoring their actual meaning (“moving the goalposts”!?), and you seem to really desperately want to fit me into some kind of weird narrative. I don’t have time for you.
US tipping culture? Bad, exploitative, should end. Support the unions.
Europeans smugly pretending they are superior when Europe also has exploitative practices? Bad, should stop. Stop telling people how your own farts smell better and support the unions.
That’s it, end of the line.
You do have a valid general point about how bad service jobs are under capitalism, but you are unable to make it relevant to the focus of discussion, which is tipping.
= responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation
Yes you are. You didn’t dicuss the topic. You have “forum slided” into definitions of whataboutism.
Because you are trying to move the goalposts away from US tipping culture towards a broader service topic where Europe is also guilty.
Let’s see if you can stay on topic. Tips are taxed in Europe, but not in the US. That is why there is a difference. It’s not culture. It’s government policy.
You take my words out of context, you willfully ignore the meaning of words you use to accuse me, you throw random accusations again while ignoring their actual meaning (“moving the goalposts”!?), and you seem to really desperately want to fit me into some kind of weird narrative. I don’t have time for you.
US tipping culture? Bad, exploitative, should end. Support the unions. Europeans smugly pretending they are superior when Europe also has exploitative practices? Bad, should stop. Stop telling people how your own farts smell better and support the unions. That’s it, end of the line.
1/ Failed to stay on the topic of tipping.
2/ Refused to engage further when called out.
I rate this engagement 2/10.
You do have a valid general point about how bad service jobs are under capitalism, but you are unable to make it relevant to the focus of discussion, which is tipping.