• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    China definitely is. I don’t really get how you people don’t see this. You’re on a pretty heavy CCP influenced social media site. This was one of the generators of anti AI. I bet if you used way back machine you’d see a lot of the anti AI meme’s and opinions were originating here. Articles and opinions were heavily astro turfed and I even called this out at the time. It was a barrage of articles and posts that were all eerily similar to right wing content that is aimed at immigrants. It was all the same appeals. Articles about the evil horde of AI coming to attack your daughters and wives and take your jobs and steal your culture. It was a threat and you needed to fear it.

    100% China wants their competitors to reject any new tech. Especially if that tech is potentially going to be disruptive. They don’t want the average westerner playing around with it and innovating. This isn’t an endorsement of AI. But you’re blind if you don’t realize that much of our anti AI content is driven by AstroTurfing in order to shoot ourselves in our own foot. This technology is here. It sucks. But if you’re not using it and learning it and innovating, it’s going to be a lot worse for you.

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      Ironic how you call out anti-immigrant fear mongering, then write an entire Sinophobic conspiracy post.

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        Weird. Humanity it’s weirdly complex. Imagine a world of complexity outside the internet

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      Who needs evidence when you have an overwhelming sense of paranoid xenophobia.

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      So you’re pro ai datacenter?? You think llms are a disruptive technology, and not a way for the billionaires to become trillionaires?

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        I’m anti having my economy continue to decline. I can’t eat your moral superiority

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          If I were you, I’d look up what a bubble is in economic terms. You sure as fuck can’t eat anything in a data center, and when people realize how stupid this push has been to put llms in everything, you’re gonna wish you put up more of a fight against them.

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            Holy shit. Remember the dotcom bubble. Being a bubble isn’t the argument you think it is.

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              The… Dotcom bubble where investors ignored revenue and profibility which resulted in a market crash and huge economic downturn? The dotcom bubble that this new ai bubble is 100x bigger than?

              Tell me about some good bubbles lol.

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                And what are the biggest companies since then? All tech companies. Fuck this is such waste of time

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                    The recession is caused by lack of innovation and the economy moving out of the country are decades of Chinese influence using people like you to stifle innovation

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        AI is shaking up everything. My professors are constantly using it for their research to get more accurate simulations, for example. Instead of tweaking parameters for ages an AI tweaks them live while the simulation is running.

        Chat bots / LLMs are overhyped and used for lots of things they shouldn’t do but AI is here to stay.

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          One would think someone in uni would be smart enough to realise that, to a layperson, AI = LLMs / generative model.

          People have been automating hyerparameter tuning before anyone knew what a GPT is. Maybe don’t take that “fuck AI” too personally?

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          Do you think the majority of new datacenters going up are going to be used for those useful niche cases, or LLM slop that they’re going to try to shove down consumers throats?

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            No, and they’re a huge waste of ressources. We just mustnt use this as a reason to reject AI as a whole.

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              Maybe the people trying to cram LLMs into every single aspect of our lives should have thought of that before they labelled it AI.

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      If China wants to be the sole victim of AI, let them. No faster way to their destruction exists.

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        Except they won’t. All these people using it are a lot more intelligent than you and have access to numbers and data showing benefits. You have astroturfed media you read on a pro CCP website

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      China doesn’t even have to believe that more domestic datacenters is a good bet for the US. Any in fighting and division directly benefits them. I mean they wrote an entire book on this over 1.5 milenia ago.

      Russia and China are very well known to use firehose of falsehoods campaigns. it worked so well for them for creating trump, brexit etc - why would they stop now?

      The issue here is people being dumb enough to believe there’s some intent and try to extrapolate some sort of real reality from that when it’s literally just spam.