i was under the impression that were explicitly against genAI but i found that some people are actually VERY pro genai and quite dismissive of its risks. this happened on lemmy but i saw people getting downvoted for saying that genAI in its current state is harmful to the environment. i saw the old bullshit of how ”i use AI for art because i cant draw”, it was crazy. i called someone a Promptitute and someone unironically told me not to say that, just so much. so can everybody pls affirm you dont support that crap.
another user straight up admitted that they use AI as a friend and to gn to… i dont care how much we have in common ideologically, i cant support you gning to chatgpt and thinking its your friend…
The parallel doesn’t really work (there is nothing fundamentally incompatible between the purpose of a car and the basic design idea); but to try and answer, this would be a viable answer if the huge “AI labs” admitted the tech doesn’t work and were collectively working on entirely new architectures (likely ones that include actual symbolic representation of the world, not just statistical links between words).
But they’re not, they’re using the same fundamental approach and doing ridiculous shit around that approach - ultimately a genuine, and interesting, NLP breakthrough - to try and sell it as what it’s not and will never be.
See, that’s one part I disagree about. First as a direct productivity boost; I realize you probably think it’s making you more productive; but that’s something you have to demonstrate, at scale. And the few genuine studies I’ve seen suggest the effect, if it exists, is marginal at best; at least two I remember suggest it decreases productivity (and at least one, possibly both, can’t remember, said self-reporting from devs was that it increased it despite the effect).
More importantly, though: very little of the code you produce this way will be maintainable. Very little will also be secure, too (both “direct” vulns - they’re not actually good at finding them, FYI - and more fundamental logic vulnerabilities - they’ll never find these at all outside of trivial cases). If you want a concrete example of that, just look at the leaked Claude harness code: it’s genuinely pathetic. They’re vibe coding it all and it shows.
Also, I notice you say “you still need to…”; do you think this will eventually get fixed ? it’s been nine years. There’s a point where “it’ll get better” is starting to become more of a meme than an answer. It was getting better, then a lot less, then lately almost not at all, despite greater and greater cost increases.
Shit, lately I’ve even started to wonder if they’re even training new models anymore; I’ve been wondering if they’re just not shipping the same with a different harness / different bullshit surrounding it. It’s not like they can improve on the models themselves anyway (not without at least one, likely several, genuine fundamental breakthrough) - they’re all out of human-produced data by now.