i was under the impression that were explicitly against genAI but i found that some people are actually VERY pro genai and quite dismissive of its risks. this happened on lemmy but i saw people getting downvoted for saying that genAI in its current state is harmful to the environment. i saw the old bullshit of how ”i use AI for art because i cant draw”, it was crazy. i called someone a Promptitute and someone unironically told me not to say that, just so much. so can everybody pls affirm you dont support that crap.

another user straight up admitted that they use AI as a friend and to gn to… i dont care how much we have in common ideologically, i cant support you gning to chatgpt and thinking its your friend…

  • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I was convinced once I saw an article about people basically just quoting westerners about indigenous and black people but saying ‘clanker’. Before that I couldn’t imagine why we should care. But the article cited some black creators (also definitely at least partially motivated by clicks, to be fair) describing how hurtful it was to see jokes about apartheid America being made light of by just saying clanker instead of rhe N-word in very specific things to anti-black pre-civil-rights-racism

    I think it’s likely not near as harmful as slurs against humans, but there’s also no benefit to using it that I can see so it’s pretty easy to just not if theres even a tiny bit of meanness in it

    • the article cited some black creators (also definitely at least partially motivated by clicks, to be fair) describing how hurtful it was to see jokes about apartheid America being made light of by just saying clanker instead of rhe N-word in very specific things to anti-black pre-civil-rights-racism

      the problem here is racism, not hating LLMs. no doubt there is plenty of cracker scum who use the term clanker because it makes them feel like they’re getting away with saying the n word

      that said, i don’t think it’s fair to conflate “using the term clanker bc LLMs are bad” with “using the term clanker bc you’re a racist who simply can’t avoid conflating bad things with black peolle”

      i still think there’s some value in using as derogatory a term as possible for LLMs, just to discourage people from using them. they should not be allowed to be perceived as cool or good or useful in any way

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        Do you really think it’s discouraging? I see it more like showing a weakness of the argument against, where it signals the stronger side being the ones who ignore insults (not really, but how its perceived) and the weaker side going to slurs. Registers the bullshit team mentality in some people and they will do the ‘I’m joining the war on clankers on the side of the clankers’ mentality. Idk, I think we just plainly disagree on the utility at basis. But I’m not plugged into the whole world so idk if the feel is different where you’re at. I’m mostly off the webs nowadays except niche Twitter and my favorite liberal site, hexbear