As road deaths increase and cycle lanes overflow with e-bikes, the Netherlands is considering a cycling speed limit of 12mph (20km/h).

The government has started a two-week trial in Houten, near Utrecht, to gauge whether freedom-loving Dutch cyclists are willing to slow down – and whether they have any idea how fast they are going in the first place.

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    9 days ago

    and many people (mostly teenagers) do remove that limit.

    And again I see this claim and have to ask: Do they? My counter claim is that the average person, even if we limit it to average teenage e-bike cyclist, is surprisingly afraid to mess with electronics.

    While a lot of bikes are seized by the police for driving faster than allowed, they rarely give any indication if the bikes were modified in any way - partially because there is no legal definition for tuning. In my opinion, it is far more likely that the bikes were already illegally fast when the people bough them.

    The most I have seen is a police estimation that 5-10% of e-bikes on the roads are illegally tuned.

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      The average person […] is surprisingly afraid to mess with electronics

      These e-bikes often don’t require you to mess with electronics to “tune” them. It is usually as simple as flicking a switch in an app. Manufacturers know what they are doing and make the process as convenient as possible.

      The most I have seen is a police estimation that 5-10% of e-bikes on the roads are illegally tuned.

      That is 1 in 20 e-bikes on the road. Given the total amount of e-bikes on the road, those are insane numbers.
      My comment didn’t say “most people”, it says “many people”.

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      9 days ago

      Even the low end of that estimate is staggeringly high. 1 in 20 is an absolute distaster and total failure of oversight. 1 in 2000 is closer to acceptable.

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      9 days ago

      I saw a couple just the other day. It’s not necessarily that they modify the bikes, it’s more often the case that they order a Chinese bike or a scooter from some dropshipper. Un-capped bikes aren’t hard to procure.