Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) talks Graham Platner allegations ahead of Maine primary election tonight. She says his allegations are not something to ...
Disappointing take. My guess is she’s just not very informed on the allegations.
People mindlessly parroting back today’s talking points for the anti-left smear campaign does make you look like a shill, yes.
How about you actually go do, let’s say, 5 minutes of listening or reading to what Platner actually believes or has to say before you speak? You can even set a timer if you like.
I’ve read it. It’s the same bullshit all the other Democrats pandering to the progressives have. AOC, no weapons for Israel, except defensive weapons! Biden, I’m very progressive, but here’s a crime bill! Harris, I’m totally different, but I wouldn’t change anything Biden did and do it exactly the same way! Obama, change is possible, but actually here’s a massive bailout to the banks and Libya’s a slave market now!
It’s all designed to bring you back into the fold. Platitudes and campaign promises are useless. He’s going to make everyone feel so much better when he gets into office and then he’s going to sliiiiide to the right clap clap sliiiide to the right clap clap. How could he not given his fundamentally reactionary background, economic interests, and relationships.
Again, I can point to a bunch of people with Tottenkopfs who claimed they wanted to build a working class movement and fight the good fight against the oppressors. That’s literally why they called themselves National Socialists. Patriotic, god fearing, proud of country National Socialists with Tottenkopfs and a penchant for killing people that were different than they were.
When people show you who they are, believe them. I’ll be very happy to be wrong. But honestly, he seems a lot like a leopard and we’re all going to have our faces eaten in a few years when arguing against war for America First economics just doesn’t work and he’ll actually need to take a principled anti-imperialist and revolutionary defeatist stance. More than likely we’ll see him voting for military spending, voting for police expansion, and generally being a standard run of the mill petite bourgeois imperialist Democrat that wants to maintain democracy and by democracy he means capitalism and the imperial war machine.
Yeah. So a small time landowner who farmed a luxury food (literally the template for the petite bourgeois, a veritable poster child) figured out how to mobilize citizens for his own economic benefit and protection. How do you not see this? These are literally the people who will collaborate with the military attacking civilians if they start demanding land reform. Read history, FFS.
A petite bourgeoisie today would be those people making maybe 200k usd a year who bought their houses 30 years ago and are now so paranoid of the evil leftists coming to tax their money that they consistently vote against their own self interest because they identify with the “upper class”.
This is such a limit understanding of the situation in America, it’s laughable. Family farmers are petite bourgeois. Main St business owners are petite bourgeois. These people exist in droves in the USA. Graham is an owner-operator oyster farmer. His entire economic well being is based on private property rights and the profit motive. He identifies with the working class rhetorically, but his economic interests are tied to the maintenance of the bourgeoisie and the systems they manage. I don’t know a ton of working class people that eat oysters, quite frankly.
And of COURSE he can rhetorically claim in this moment to identify with the working class. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto (emphasis mine):
In countries where modern civilisation has become fully developed, a new class of petty bourgeois has been formed, fluctuating between proletariat and bourgeoisie, and ever renewing itself as a supplementary part of bourgeois society. The individual members of this class, however, are being constantly hurled down into the proletariat by the action of competition, and, as modern industry develops, they even see the moment approaching when they will completely disappear as an independent section of modern society, to be replaced in manufactures, agriculture and commerce, by overlookers, bailiffs and shopmen.
He’s petite bourgeois, definitionally. He’s also a former American soldier who volunteered to become a mercenary for a wage. Again, I’d be happy to be wrong. I don’t think I am, but I’d be happy to be wrong. Nothing you can point to today will sway me unless you can unearth some sources I haven’t found where he talks about Lenin having the right idea or evidence of him working directly with veterans, young men, or men in general to wash their brains of the propaganda they were all fed because he’s managed to escape it himself. I haven’t seen any evidence that he’s actually gone through the process of deconstruction. All I see is a former mercenary oyster farmer who got good at rallying his neighbors to protect his business from a larger competitor and now he’s finally removed his tottenkopf and is attracting a lot of energy towards the Democrats and electoralism.
Everyone who disagrees with me is a paid shill, and other children’s stories
People mindlessly parroting back today’s talking points for the anti-left smear campaign does make you look like a shill, yes.
How about you actually go do, let’s say, 5 minutes of listening or reading to what Platner actually believes or has to say before you speak? You can even set a timer if you like.
I’ve read it. It’s the same bullshit all the other Democrats pandering to the progressives have. AOC, no weapons for Israel, except defensive weapons! Biden, I’m very progressive, but here’s a crime bill! Harris, I’m totally different, but I wouldn’t change anything Biden did and do it exactly the same way! Obama, change is possible, but actually here’s a massive bailout to the banks and Libya’s a slave market now!
It’s all designed to bring you back into the fold. Platitudes and campaign promises are useless. He’s going to make everyone feel so much better when he gets into office and then he’s going to sliiiiide to the right clap clap sliiiide to the right clap clap. How could he not given his fundamentally reactionary background, economic interests, and relationships.
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Again, I can point to a bunch of people with Tottenkopfs who claimed they wanted to build a working class movement and fight the good fight against the oppressors. That’s literally why they called themselves National Socialists. Patriotic, god fearing, proud of country National Socialists with Tottenkopfs and a penchant for killing people that were different than they were.
When people show you who they are, believe them. I’ll be very happy to be wrong. But honestly, he seems a lot like a leopard and we’re all going to have our faces eaten in a few years when arguing against war for America First economics just doesn’t work and he’ll actually need to take a principled anti-imperialist and revolutionary defeatist stance. More than likely we’ll see him voting for military spending, voting for police expansion, and generally being a standard run of the mill petite bourgeois imperialist Democrat that wants to maintain democracy and by democracy he means capitalism and the imperial war machine.
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Yeah. So a small time landowner who farmed a luxury food (literally the template for the petite bourgeois, a veritable poster child) figured out how to mobilize citizens for his own economic benefit and protection. How do you not see this? These are literally the people who will collaborate with the military attacking civilians if they start demanding land reform. Read history, FFS.
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This is such a limit understanding of the situation in America, it’s laughable. Family farmers are petite bourgeois. Main St business owners are petite bourgeois. These people exist in droves in the USA. Graham is an owner-operator oyster farmer. His entire economic well being is based on private property rights and the profit motive. He identifies with the working class rhetorically, but his economic interests are tied to the maintenance of the bourgeoisie and the systems they manage. I don’t know a ton of working class people that eat oysters, quite frankly.
And of COURSE he can rhetorically claim in this moment to identify with the working class. This is straight out of the Communist Manifesto (emphasis mine):
He’s petite bourgeois, definitionally. He’s also a former American soldier who volunteered to become a mercenary for a wage. Again, I’d be happy to be wrong. I don’t think I am, but I’d be happy to be wrong. Nothing you can point to today will sway me unless you can unearth some sources I haven’t found where he talks about Lenin having the right idea or evidence of him working directly with veterans, young men, or men in general to wash their brains of the propaganda they were all fed because he’s managed to escape it himself. I haven’t seen any evidence that he’s actually gone through the process of deconstruction. All I see is a former mercenary oyster farmer who got good at rallying his neighbors to protect his business from a larger competitor and now he’s finally removed his tottenkopf and is attracting a lot of energy towards the Democrats and electoralism.