• Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    China doesn’t have to be BASED, and likely isn’t. It just has to be better enough than the US, which in the 2020s is an embarrassingly low bar to pass.

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      China isn’t better than the US, it sucks equally, but in totally different ways.

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        No county on Earth is perfect. China has genuine problems, like the urban/rural divide, hukou systen, and more. At the same time, it’s a constantly progressing country, among the fastest in the world, with a system that ensures the working classes are the primary beneficiaries of this progress.

        The US empire is a genocidal settler-colony. It engages in constant war and genocide, plunders the global south of their social surplus, preventing it from being reinvested in development, brutally oppresses ethnic minorities and indigenous populations, and can’t even afford to bribe the white settlers any longer. The spoils all go to the wealthiest imperialists as the country continues to decay and die away.

        China, meanwhile, is a progressive force for the global south. It is helping the global south develop, entitling them more to their social surplus and assisting with south-south trade. It’s uplifting themselves, while undermining imperialism, which uplifts others. China is equipped to deal with its problems and is working on them, the US Empire is exporting its problems to the global south and reaping the rewards.

        Equating China and the US is imperialism denial and genocide trivialization.

      • 秦始皇帝@lemmy.ml
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        Care to elaborate on what China has done that even comes close to

        -Killing millions through sanctions regimes

        -Killimg millions through direct military intervention

        -Killing and impoverishing hundreds of thousands of not more through enforcing austerity and privatisation on the third world through institutions like the IMF

        etc.?

        • imhungry@leminal.spaceBanned from community
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          So you’re saying that China is exactly like America, almost 1:1, except it’s more densely populated and everybody’s Chinese?

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            No that’s not even close to what I said? You’re the one who said they were exactly equally bad which is just plainly false

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              Holy shit you mean that both countries kinda suck? Man, that’s heavy. I mean sure I think my country sucks worse, because only a total fucking bootlicker would gargle the balls of a government that was openly screwing them over, right?

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                China has issues (but I would say has done far more good than bad so suck isn’t an accurate descriptor anyway) but trying to equate China’s issues with Amerika, who have spent the better part of the last century raping and pillaging their way across the world is fucking stupid.

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                  China has good things and bad things, America has good things and bad things. You can probably end up in a black prison or a work camp in either country, depending on who you are and the context of why you’re there.

                  I do not believe that China is a person, so it cannot do good or bad. It is a location and a government entity.

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                    Ok you’re still not answering the question and now you’re contradicting yourself but we can skip past that.

                    I’ll ask again what has China done that even comes close to the tens of millions murdered, impoverished, and otherwise immiserated at the hands of Amerika that you can sit here and say they suck equally?

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              This bullshit doesn’t deserve a response. That person is Chinese, or at least speaks Chinese. I am sure they know what problems their own country has.

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                  I see many Americans not seeing the US for the vile garbage it is.

                  There isn’t really anything in my posting history or comments to indicate I’m one of those people, so there is absolutely no reason to come at me sideways. America sucking doesn’t make any other country suck less. I don’t believe in comparisons.

                  • Lowleekun [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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                    Well you said the commenter you replied to is Chinese and thus knows about the problems which I stated is not necessarily true. If you felt personally attacked because you are an american than it is your problem. Is said many americans and not “you”.

                    “America doesn’t make any other country suck less” True “I don’t believe in comparisons” Silly af