Wait a second… how can they enforce this legislation when a VPN is masking the user’s location? How do they know a user using a VPN is from Utah?
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but aren’t the users they’re trying to regulate the exact subsection of users that they don’t have the ability to identify as being citizens of Utah?
Like if a user appears to be in Utah, then they’re probably not using a vpn. And if the user appears to be from out of state, then they could be using a vpn, but also Utah law doesn’t apply to those people because they’re not from Utah (as far as they know)… So essentially this law can’t actually apply to… anyone?
You are too generous. If a company registered in Utah has a user who is coming in via VPN, then that user could be from Utah and the company is not in compliance unless they enforce age verification and thus liable. Thus, everyone has to hand over their ID. No one cares if a NY resident or European or whatever gets caught in it too. That’s not a requirement to avoid.
I don’t know about this one, but these laws usually apply to any company doing commerce inside the jurisdiction. So any company with an office or other business presence there, not just hosting.
no, the law is a feeder to push through the courts to the US Supreme Court’s shadow docket so they can make an overbroad decision with precedent that forces the rest of the country to adopt a VPN band
Wait a second… how can they enforce this legislation when a VPN is masking the user’s location? How do they know a user using a VPN is from Utah?
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but aren’t the users they’re trying to regulate the exact subsection of users that they don’t have the ability to identify as being citizens of Utah?
Like if a user appears to be in Utah, then they’re probably not using a vpn. And if the user appears to be from out of state, then they could be using a vpn, but also Utah law doesn’t apply to those people because they’re not from Utah (as far as they know)… So essentially this law can’t actually apply to… anyone?
You are too generous. If a company registered in Utah has a user who is coming in via VPN, then that user could be from Utah and the company is not in compliance unless they enforce age verification and thus liable. Thus, everyone has to hand over their ID. No one cares if a NY resident or European or whatever gets caught in it too. That’s not a requirement to avoid.
Seems like it kills tech sector in Utah
It would if Utah wasn’t the first of many.
Albeit I haven’t checked 100% of my traffic but thank God nothing important is hosted in Utah.
I don’t know about this one, but these laws usually apply to any company doing commerce inside the jurisdiction. So any company with an office or other business presence there, not just hosting.
This law is pointless
Nope. It’s a stepping stone to completely block the public from using VPNs.
I get that but laws with no enforcement mechanism are questionable at best
no, the law is a feeder to push through the courts to the US Supreme Court’s shadow docket so they can make an overbroad decision with precedent that forces the rest of the country to adopt a VPN band
What kind of music does VPN band play?
dwarfcore. the d is for dwarfcore
I think they check with the ISP or something.