• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    I think I’m heading back toward gambling being morally wrong. I mean, it’s not, but it can be self-destructive, and willingly work with immoral entities - most companies that profit from gambling are exploiting people’s weaknesses to harm them. That’s a whole lot of immoral all over a mildly amusing activity

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      Gambling isnt morally wrong, but running a casino is. Corporations should be banned from any gambling related activity, that way if a couple friends want to play poker or make a small wager on a football game, no laws are broken government doesn’t get involved. But at the same time by banning corporations you make it so that there’s no casinos no tv ads and more generally no capitalist industry preying on gambling addicts.

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      At minimum online gambling should be outlawed. That whole industry seems to make the issue so much worse compared to how it was historically.

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        Gambling is a scam, but I wouldn’t trust my government to ban it. The way governments see these things, they may as well as ban Fallout: New Vegas for having gambling-related minigames. Or chance-based videogames. Good luck reasoning with your government on how these things are different. You’ll be hit back with countless arguments on how you are wrong.

        Also, when gambling is legal, it’s taxed and regulated. When it’s illegal, it still happens but now the government has to spend money to stop it. Lose-lose situation.

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          Make casinos and sportsbooks illegal, dont let people use capital markets to build huge gambling companies that prey on millions of addicts. But if a couple friends make a friendly wager, then yeah no crime.

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      Gambling in the micro is not morally wrong. Games between friends with stakes and the like is perfectly fine.

      Running a casino or sportsbook is almost certainly exploiting problem gamblers in a way that is unequivocally morally wrong.

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      It’s not just damage. It seeds corruption, as is plain as day with Polymarket now.

      I do believe it has crossed the line to “public hazard”

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        Addiction ruins lives, like practically everything that triggers dopamine, gambling can be very addictive.

        Addicts are going to find an addiction, it’s part of their wiring. You can change your addiction to another less harmful addiction, or rewire yourself with a lot of work.

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          That’s not really true. Anyone can become addicted to something. There’s not some “addict wiring” that some people are born with and some aren’t. Obviously some things increase your risk factor for addiction, like having ADHD or a traumatic childhood, but even those are correlations, not causation.

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            There’s not some “addict wiring” that some people are born with and some aren’t

            There absolutely is and you named three examples of it in this comment lol

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              That would imply that every ADHDer or trauma survivor is an addict. Again, correlation is not causation.

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                That’s like saying not everyone with fair skin gets skin cancer. (And we’re only talking about correlation here, nobody said anything about causation.)

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      The only thing worse than legal gambling is illegal gambling.

      Addicts are addicts, they can’t be helped and must help themselves. We all must learn to control our dopamine receptors, they are batshit crazy.

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        Me and my buddy making a friendly wager is illegal.

        A casino conglomerate preying on millions of gambling addicts and ruining millions of families is in completely legal.

        You tell me which one is morally worse now.

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        I don’t even know if that’s true in the same way that it is for a drug user. Making drugs legal and safe is a good for society. Making gambling legal has made society worse in terms of bankruptcies and financial stress.

        Gambling addicts definitely need support but allowing problem gamblers to be taken advantage of is something that legal gambling does that legal recreational drug use does not