• Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org
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    Noup. Modern sedentary lifestyle and often times fast food diet is really bad for the body. Making 30 year olds, who should be almost at the peak of their performance, equal to geriatrics.

    And people really like to milk that stereotype, because it removes the responsibility of taking care of your body. “it’s happening to everyone, it’s supposed to be this way.”

    No, it isn’t. Your body isn’t supposed to suddenly break down on your 30th birthday. That’s just the lack of maintenance catching up and the saddest part is. That number is getting lower.

    Of course there are exceptions, but exceptions wouldn’t create so popular stereotype.

    But don’t worry, it’s not too late to start, even now.

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      I nearly pulled my arm out of the socket when I was in my late 30’s hurt so damn bad that I didn’t want to bend it certain ways. Stayed like that for about 2 months until I saw my doctor and he told me I was babying it too much and I should do certain exercises.

      Hurt like a motherfucker to do the exercises each time. After about 1-week it was immensely better, exercising it every morning than at night.

      After about a month I forgot it hurt unless I stretched it back really far to put on a jacket or reach behind me. Worked on that for about 4 months and finally it stopped hurting altogether.

      Moral of the story, something’s just break. But typically if it’s meat you got to work on it.

      My folks never did exercises their doctor told them to do after hip surgery or other trauma. Eventually they got so weak they could barely stand because they’d just lay in bed for days to “heal”. That will bite you in ass much harder if you don’t move. Keep pushing yourself, it takes a long time but it will get better, not worse.

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        Yeah even after major surgeries they usually try to get you up and moving as quickly as possible. If you just lay down your muscles will atrophy quick, and the scars inside and outside can more easily form in ways that might cause huge problems later on, or simply just restrict your movement. Moving also helps your guts work, fluids flow, and the usual processes working kinda means the healing will kick in too

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          I had major surgery last summer. I was told full recovery was about an 8 month process and I read a lot of people online saying they didn’t feel fully recovered for a year afterwards. I wasn’t allowed to do any exercise except walking for 2 months following the surgery, but was told to walk as much as possible to help recovery. I started a little too soon, I was told to wait at least a week but was out hobbling very short distances around my neighborhood by day 3 because I was coughing a lot and was afraid of getting pneumonia and I’m also terrified of blood clots. By 10 days I was walking a few miles every day and after a few weeks I started doing gentle hikes. I felt pretty much 90% back to normal by about 2 months, which was when I was allowed to go back to work, and by 2 1/2 to 3 months I felt completely recovered and back to normal.

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        Been working on my uneven hips, spine, and shoulders for a year. Getting things aligned was body horror before and took days, now I can get it aligned after stretching out the morning rust. Still a problem but making progress. If I’m lazy a few days its a mess.

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          congratulations on your progress, being able to get into alignment is a huge milestone!! on a similar journey myself, it’s a daily struggle but these things really can get better.

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            Thanks, wish it was more reliable. My shoulder hurts today but I kept it strait most the day. What I get for sitting in front a computer all day…

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        Muscle will heal, even joints can regain some health and extra muscle mass takes the load off from joints. Better cardiovascular health improves nutrient delivery which improves healing.

        Yeah that laying down in bed for days was the worst thing they could do. Their bodies cannibalized even the muscle requred for basic movement, just because it wasn’t necessary anymore.

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        You’re 100% correct except for one thing, when you have those socket problems your exercises should not hurt. As in, if it hurts, stop or do it “smaller”.

        It’s long long long (you should probably always check/feel if you need just a little of that exercise from now and then), but if it hurts you might actually make it worse. Cool you got through it, cheers!

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      Ehhh… It’s more complicated than that, at least in regards to bone and joint health.

      During your thirties is when hormones tend to slow down and people start to lose some of their muscle and bone density. Even if you remain active, you will still degrade in musculoskeletal health, just at a slower pace.

      Injuries do heal slower, and you start to acquire overuse injuries. Which is why so many people in their 40s are starting to have to have total and partial knee replacements.

      I work in orthopedics and rehabilitation, and see a ton of marathon runners for chronic knee, ankle, and foot injuries. I highly recommend people migrate to more low impact cardio activities for exercise before their 40s so you can maintain your mobility later in life.

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        Technically yeah, like from 30s we start to lose roughly 1% of muscle mass per year, but that’s from the max. Average person never reaches anywhere close to their maximum potential for that to matter. Basic day to day life is throwing enough wrenches into training and dieting to keep people far away from their maximum potential.

        Though the safety aspect is a good point. I completely agree that if we’re talking about cardio training then low impact like cycling, elliptical, swimming, rowing are better alternatives than running, exactly due to the issues you mentioned.

        And as we are already talking about safety aspect of training.
        Then one of the most common way to resistance train, that i regularly see in the gym is doing max effort/1 rep max lifts basically every single workout. This is one of the highest risk and lowest growth stimulating way to lift. Oftentimes that results in form breaking down completely and parts of the body that haven’t caught up yet taking over, in best case just really bad form and minimal growth stimulus and worst case getting stuck under a barbell or pulling some muscle or injuring the back.

        Overwhelming majority of resistance training should be done in repetition range(generally 8-12, but anything between 5-30 is good enough). It provides the most stimulus to growth, with the lowest injury risk, assuming effort is already there.

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      Yep. Your body is “use it or lose it”. Im in the gym 3 days a week and I feel better and more capable than I ever did as a teen.

      It’s also kind of a cycle. People who arent active feel their body suffer through day to day movements and think that the gym would genuinely ruin them. They dont realize that it would actually improve their problems, not worsen them, because the lack of activity IS the problem.

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        Yeah, spot on. Gym helps to raise the bodies capacity beyond whats required for day to day activities, so that day to day activities will no longer hard.

        And yeah it is “use it or lose it” if the environment no longer requires extra performance. The body absobrs it back to make use of the nutrients in other parts. 2-3 months of no training is enough to be back at square one, though building it back is going to be easier.

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      I feel better in my mid-30s than my mid-20s. Less aches and pains, and I feel like I recover from injuries quicker. I eat better and go to the gym regularly. I also was finally able to find a doctor to help me get some chronic health issues under control (ironically I had to get old enough that they stopped telling me I was too young to have the issues I was having and started being willing to treat them) and I’m no longer in an unhealthy relationship. Less stress + better health + better habits = feeling younger.

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        I want to complain, but for most people this will be true. The most boring stock standard fitness and lifestyle advice will, and it pains me to admit this, absolutely improve your quality of life in every way.

        It’s not like you’re guaranteed to feel amazing, but the bads won’t feel as bad, and you’ll just feel a little bit better than if you did nothing.

        Fml but the normies had this one right 🤷

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          I want to complain too. I slacked off the last 2-3 weeks and went to the gym less often. I’ve still been far more active in these past 2-3 weeks than I was even a year ago and still got several hours of exercise each week, but I’ve not been as active as I’ve been the past few months. I can’t believe how shitty I’ve felt the last few days. Time to stop being lazy and get my ass back in gear.

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            It’s always a struggle but it’s always worth it. Shame it’s so hard to see how worth it it is from this side of things

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      Can confirm, aches and pains went away after I started exercising regularly. Wasn’t instant but some are just gone now. It’s amazing how little it takes to make a difference if you don’t do anything.

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      Took the words out of my mouth. I’m a huge combat sports fan and people call me old for being in my late 20s. But I see dudes in their 30s killing it in these sports so I can’t take it seriously.

      I was having horrible ankle and knee pain. People just kept acting like it was just normal arthritis because I’m closing in on 30. I started going to the gym and have no issues with either anymore besides my right knee popping more than when I was younger. Most people wouldnt go to the gym because of their pain. I couldn’t accept how bad I let my health get. I always knew it was my choices of fast food, hard drugs and sedentary lifestyle that was hurting me. When I made lifestyle changes I’m way more athletic and pain free than I was earlier in my 20s.

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          I never wanna see anyone 40+ do pro combat sports but you gotta respect it when they do it anyways lol especially if they’re competitive

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        Wait till you find out that they’re all hooked on opioids.

        You’re in your 20s dude, you might not want to be so confident about how your body is going to feel in 10-15 years. Especially if you’re doing combat sports.

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          I’m only agreeing that late 20s isn’t the time your body is supposed to break down. I feel it’s actually the late 30s. Late 20s and early to mid 30s is prime time.