• HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.orgOP
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    I linked this article because I think this is exactly what is needed - many people re-thinking hard what they want, how they do it, and how to do it better.

    It is basically re-inventing our civilization from building cars and cooking stoves to how to do traditional German Easter celebrations without setting stuff on fire. A monumental task - and so much room for human creativity and ingenuity.

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        Bonfires apparently, at least in parts of Germany.

        I don’t see anything significant suggesting they’re being discontinued. It’s a relatively small amount of wood mass being burned on one day a year.

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          It’s a relatively small amount of wood mass being burned on one day a year.

          Yeah but it is culturally wrong to still burn stuff just for the sake of it. Like a stone age ritual. Like killing a kitten when a baby is born. We need to stop burning things. In the light of what we know, it lacks respect for life and our Earth.

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    This is all little stuff. The smallest part of the problem.
    It’s a drop in the bucket compared to water used in desert farming, or energy used in concrete production, or a few dozen other things.

    Is it bad to do? No of course not. It’d be great when we’re working on cutting the long tail, a few hundredths of a percent at a time. But we still have big major polluters that have an impact on whole percentages of the problem.

    Encouraging your fans to use public transit to get to your concert, shouldn’t even be a thing. It should be the automatic default for people. The fact that she’s even doing it at all, only shows that haven’t made a lot of progress on a larger problem.

    Like I said this is fine to do. But the article it’s self strikes me as some green washing. I only skimmed it quickly, but I didn’t see anything about what Billie is doing differently in her own travel, or more importantly that of whole production and crew.

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      Sure, there are bigger things, but there will always be bigger things. Someone, especially someone with a large audience, coming out and saying that this is important to them is the important part. That’s how you begin a movement.

      Naysayers pointing out how one thing isn’t going to make a difference is part of how capitalism works; it persists by convincing everyone that there is no point in resisting, that nothing will ever make a difference. But she and others aren’t doing this because it’s going to change everything, they’re doing it because they should, and it’s part of the world we want. It starts with a few people, and then spreads to everyone else. I myself have managed to convince a non-zero number of people to change their ways just like this. You just have to be persistent, and have a little faith.

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        I realized I didn’t give examples of things I’ve convinced people of, so I figured I’d elaborate–sorry for the comment length; I’m not trying to pile on you, just hoping to inspire others!

        • I’ve pointed out to a few people that restaurants will often let you bring your own food containers for leftovers, and sometimes will box it for you, so that you don’t have to use Styrofoam or single-use plastic
        • I’ve inspired a few folks to repair their clothing instead of throwing it out by wearing very visible patches on my own clothes. I usually make them look pretty and/or creative, which makes them popular with people
        • I’ve steered folks away from Spotify by sharing places I like to buy music that aren’t streaming platforms (I even got a family member a CD player so they could build a collection, and it went down really well with them!)
        • I like to make zines going over various ways I’ve found of consuming less and saving money. I’ve gotten a lot positive feedback on them over the years.
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          There aren’t always bigger things. There’s always one at the top. That’s where changes can have the biggest impact. And where peoples focus needs to be.

          What’s your carbon footprint?” was a marketing slogan from the big oil companies to steer the environmental movement away from them (where substantive change was possible) onto everyone else, so they could dodge responsibility. It worked remarkably well. You still thinking that way is testimony to the fact.

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            You and I, though, have virtually no say in what goes on at the top, and realistically, we never will. So I don’t really see why giving up work elsewhere would accomplish anything. Which isn’t to say that we can’t do two things at once, of course–you and I can both push for legislation against large industrial polluters, and we both should. Where I take exception to that is in saying that others also shouldn’t take action in their own way as well.

            It assumes that work on climate change is a very zero-sum game, in that focusing on one type of behavior eliminates work on any other sort of behavior, and that’s simply not the case. We can do many things at once. It also helps to build a community that has buy-in from each of its members about how things should be–sustainable and regenerative, instead of exploitative (whether of people, things, the Earth, etc), so that the larger things follow suit. This normalizes the behavior and practices and moves the Overton window away from what the big players are doing.

            Thanks for the reminder about the carbon footprint slogan. I don’t think it’s wrong in itself, however, it’s just that it was co-opted to remove pressure from Big Oil instead of being used in tandem with the movement against them.

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      People going to a concert are not in your whole points.

      Maybe instead, she uses her voice, the thing she’s known for to discuss how the rich are fucking everyone.

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    This is greenwashing. I really dig the food drive that fed people; she could have done more by not touring at all on basically every other front.