• asdasd201@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      But you don’t understand!! If we don’t bomb those sandbrownies to smithereens, they will oppress their own people!! /s

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    I think borders arising out of convenience or natural balance are different from national ones. I’m mostly completely talking out of my ass but state borders can destroy communities. For example the border between India and Bangladesh isn’t defined by some evolutionary algorithm but is in a significant proportion arbitrary.

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      I think it’s helpful to think of societies as organisms of themselves. Each society creates its own shared interpretation of reality which is the common understanding of the world that people within it share. Obviously, there’s necessarily a lot of overlap between these world views since we all inhabit the same physical world, but there are many different ways to interpret things. I’d argue that’s where natural borders form between groups of people that have different social norms, different ways to organize their societies, which themselves stem from their unique history, and material conditions. But these borders aren’t really hard divisions, they’re fuzzy and fluid in practice because people are capable of adopting different views and to consider things from other perspective. But some social models, such as western liberal ideology, behave in the way of cancer. They are unable to tolerate perspectives different from their own and actively try to homogenize the whole world in their own image.

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        Yeah the fuzziness not being respected (or comprehended) is what ends up causing the damage. Like people here are desparate to send someone else to die while protecting Arunachal Pradesh borders from China except for vague threats of encroachment. The main problem is that the people living on national borders don’t get any say over how they live their lives. And it"s also not talked about anywhere.

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      Those comments are all over the fucking place, Jesus.

      You have just explained the liberalism.

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    It is the same with chimpanzees, that would be a far better analogy bc we have nothing in common with wolves other than being mammals too. I dont get why in this century so many men compare themselves to wolves, its completely idiotic

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    Arguments about nature as a comparison to human society have two main problems: 1) Anthropomorphizing/projecting our own views onto beings who are not verified to be alike. 2) Implying that natural = good/right/just

    1 is a problem because, well, we are not wolves. Or chimpanzees, or elephants, or dolphins, or birds. It’s hard enough doing things like class analysis among humans, without drawing vague simplifications between one species and another, which usually serves to reduce our own complexity to inevitable base instinct in the process and thereby justify barbarism.

    2 is a problem because for every time you point at how a flock of birds works together or whatever, somebody can point at a species of parasite or how a solo predator animal hunts prey.