Forces had no direct confrontation with Hamas terrorists who killed hostages; ‘The IDF and security forces are doing everything possible to bring all hostages home as quickly as possible. This news shakes us all,’ says army spokesperson Hagari

Israeli forces discovered the bodies of six hostages in a 65-foot-deep tunnel in Rafah, approximately a kilometer from where hostage Farhan Alkadi was recently freed. The IDF had no precise intelligence on the hostages’ location in recent months but knew there were captives in the sector, leading to a gradual and cautious operation in Rafah since the ground offensive began.

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    “Hamas could never do something like this. Kidnap and take hostages? Sure. But they would never cross this line. They are the good guys.”

    Fuck off.

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      2 months ago

      not what I said at all. you fuck off and learn to read first.

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        2 months ago

        Oh, were you not insinuating that a terrorist organization could be capable of murdering hostages?

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          i wasn’t insinuating anything. i openly said that a terrorist organization is capable and happy to kill the hostages.

          I also said it is possible that Hamas has done it because they’re also terrorists.

          but whenever IDF says something happened it’s more than likely it hasn’t.

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            2 months ago

            So until Hamas confirms the claims, you are just going to not trust that they did this?

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              2 months ago

              yes, that’s my general attitude toward liars who lie all the time.

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                2 months ago

                Defending the innocence of a right wing Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organization is absolutely bonkers.

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            “I have a hard time believing it. Could it have happened? Sure. Did it? Since the IDF says it did, it’s much more likely that it didn’t.”

            You’re saying you have a hard time believing that a terrorist organization that murdered 1200 people in a day in the most brutal ways imaginable would kill hostages.

            I think you have your default mode set to “blame Israel for everything”. You might want to turn that dial back a little, you’re getting a bit disconnected from reality.

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              funny how you quoted to the point where I explained why I said i have a hard time believing it yet you still ignored all of it at the period.

              i don’t have a hard time believing terrorists would happily kill the hostages. if they had any problems with the hostages dying they would have stopped the indiscriminate bombing of gaza from the start.

              but of course Hamas is also a terrorist organization. the smaller one in this conflict but still. so yeah, i already said “sure” it could have happened. but everything we’ve heard from israeli hostages so far suggest they’ve mostly seen harm from the IDF, not Hamas. taking hostages usually has a purpose, and killing them is the least likely way to achieve it.

              my default position is that the IDF lies all the time. like constantly. and i wouldn’t believe anything they say without third party confirmation just like i don’t believe what Nazis would say about Jews. believe it or not I’m not much of a “believe what the genocidal maniacs say” kind of guy myself.

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        The original attack on October 7th didn’t really make sense from a strategic standpoint. Hamas hasn’t gained anything in the past 11 months, and I don’t think the hostages actually give them any leverage against the campaign of genocide the IDF is waging.

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        Ahh, I see the problem now. You then that Hamas terrorists are sane and not religious extremist nut jobs.