The Atlantic: Nobody Knows What’s Happening Online Anymore. Why you’ve probably never heard of the most popular Netflix show in the world.::undefined

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    An insightful thought from a TV critic I read years ago just as streaming was taking off :

    There’s no such thing as the best TV show anymore, because there’s so much that’s generally good enough to be a candidate that no one person has watched it all and spent the time to assess it properly.


    More broadly, this had happened to western culture with the internet. Previously, with only three tv channels and two major papers, we were all literally on the same page.

    I’d go further and say there’s a vertical dimension too in terms of complexity. Society and its various aspects such as technology are now complex enough in total they I don’t think anyone can ever say they understand what’s going on.

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      I use the phrase “societal decoheshion” to describe that. We (whoever that may be) just aren’t all that unified enough in our culture or information sources anymore.

      Even just since Reddit became dead to us, my wife (who I met through Reddit) and I went to different platforms, and find ourselves often catching each other up on what our respective corners of the internet are doing.

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        I think culture just doesn’t respect traditional boundaries anymore. There’s still unity, but it might be with some anonymous individuals from across the globe.

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      There IS a best TV show and it’s Six Feet Under and it’s perfect and the ending makes me cri every time and I will FIGHT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES

      But srsly it’s a 10/10

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        11 months ago

        My wife and I just finished the finale tonight, and it was a great ending. Very little ambiguity, real closure, and an emotionally appropriate song.

        But, I think it is far from “the best TV show”. It may have been “the best” for a TV drama when it came out because it was groundbreaking, but the acting and writing at times could be pretty bad (so many dropped plots with no follow-up or consequences). It also went on for far too long, which was a consequence of having to create 12 episodes per season, each the same length.

        It’s worth watching, but I’d give it a 7.8/10.

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          That’s entirely fair. I watched it for the first time a decade (decades?) after it some out and it really struck a chord with me.

          Then I began to date someone who is a funeral director and they didn’t know of its existence. I introduced them to it after having it be the first show I actually cried at and we both cried. So I have an emotional bias.

          I still 10/10 it (and I’m harsh on movies and shows) because of my subjective experience.

          Quick edit: I would love to know what show you would rate better. Not in an antagonistic sense, I am fully open to other opinions and I know mine is not THE CORRECT one. It’s just the show that hit me the hardest and that was before I was married to (or knew) my funeral director/mortician. Five years before.

          Other edit : the worst dropped plot in the best show was The Sopranos rape plot. They just kinda… didn’t do anything with it.

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            Also following because I like good recommendations. I don’t know if I have one that I would necessarily rate 10/10 as the best show ever, but the first show that honestly had me cry/feel real feelings was Scrubs. And while it’s up there, I still don’t think I’d give it 10/10 myself.

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            Edit: I can’t believe I forgot Baskets. That show is a masterpiece.

            There are a few shows I’d rate higher: Breaking Bad (although it had it’s share of ‘throw away’ episodes), Reservation Dogs, Battlestar Galactica (so many throw away episodes), The Newsroom, and Deadwood. I think Deadwood would be my highest ranking, especially for writing and acting.

            Obviously I’m sure plenty of examples can be given for why Six Feet Under is better than each of the shows I’ve listed, but that’s the beauty of subjective lists!

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              Breaking Bad was fucking stellar but there’s a couple shows I’d put higher—definitely The Sopranos, even though it took me maaaany years to get around to watching it! I followed breaking bad as it came out and loved it but I’ve yet to find a show that is as interesting as/hits me as hard as SixFunder.

              I tried to watch deadwood and BSG and just couldn’t get into them. Maybe I give Deadwood another go!

    • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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      There are tons of young millionaire youtubers who I’ve never heard of. It’s pretty cool actually that there are so many niches to fill.

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.ml
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        11 months ago

        And plenty of poor low-subscriber channels that are actually really good and could blow up at some point.

        I’ve certainly watched some people from before they were big and from memory their content was more or less just as good in the “early” days. Which all up makes for a pile of stuff!

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            11 months ago

            That seems to be the only kind of trash content that Google is interested in pushing these days.

            Youtube “pushes” whatever gets more views and longer watch time.

            If trashy crap is being suggested, that means other people are watching it in increased numbers.

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            11 months ago

            Google pushes what you click. Stop watching this kind of content and it’ll probably stop being recommended to you

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                11 months ago

                they are not optimizing for your enjoyment, they’'re optimizing for your engagement. they don’t give a fuck if you hate what you’re watching as long as you watch it for longer.

              • Syntha@sh.itjust.works
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                Well I practically never see these kinds of thumbnails, it’s absolutely influenced by your behaviour whatever it may be.