• Jiral@lemmy.org
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    2 days ago

    But just wait for the deafening screaming of people when 30km/h limits are enacted in front of schools because that would dramatically reduce lethality of accidents, while costing car drivers maybe a few seconds of drive time, if at all. It is quite a spectacle.

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      10 hours ago

      How dare they put an authoritarian surveillance system (speed camera) near the school. This is an unfair tax on normal people. Its not about safety, it is about control. - most of my city until the province outlawed speed cameras entirely.

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        5 hours ago

        In all seriousness, paint doesn’t enforce speed. What you need is to rebuild streets for that speed. Have a look at the Netherlands for reference. You need pretty little enforcement when streets are built for 30 km/h. Narrow, priority pumps at crossings for pedestrians, where your car seat is punch through your pelvis if you go anything faster than 30 km/h …)

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          5 hours ago

          You are right, but there were also several studies done that proved the speed cameras lowered speeda significantly, even after the camera had been relocated.

          Lets not let perfect be the enemy of good. Those cameras reduced speeds and generated revenue for the city that was specifically dedicated to making streets safer, including bollards, lane narrowing and speed humps. The removal of the cameras both made the streets more dangerous, and cut funding for real safety improvements. All because speeders were getting caught speeding and considered that unfair.

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            2 hours ago

            Sure. But if roads are built for the speed, the road enforces the speed. If driving faster will shake you so badly that it feels like an accident, most people won’t do it. Also making streets narrow, with tight road crossings and curves, and subjectively more dangerous to the car drivers, actually makes streets safer, especially for people outside of cars.

            Of course that is not possible everywhere and then speeding controls, including cameras are the next best thing.

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              2 hours ago

              We can’t just update the roads for free. The cameras were a big part of the plan to make the roads safer.

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                33 minutes ago

                Sure and don’t get me wrong, this pro reckless driving action is nothing I support either.

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      1 day ago

      30 km/h zones are great, I can relax a bit with my small city car knowing there’s pretty much no way I’ll kill someone

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      2 days ago

      I live near an intersection. Drivers will ten second horn blast because someone won’t crawl up the arse of the car in front of them just so horatio can mount the kerb and get into a sliplane they can’t exit until the lights change anyway

      So what i’m saying is you’re underselling the stupidity