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Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netM to solarpunk memes@slrpnk.netEnglish · 23 hours ago

Supply and demand

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Supply and demand

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  • lime!@feddit.nu
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    22 hours ago

    a giant flywheel for every town!

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      Pumped Hydro is a pretty safe storage method using preexisting technology if you have hills in the area.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PH0IJ-_qOI

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        i don’t want safe, i want DANGER!

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          Store it as compared air in steel tanks buried underneath your home. No protective coating.

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            why not hydrogen?

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              Already done and he hasn’t blown himself up yet.

              https://hydrogenhouseproject.org/index.html

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                sounds like he’s not even trying then

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          Giant flywheels are also safe. Great for smoothing out energy generation from a fickle source as well.

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            not if you leave them uncovered!

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        Like any hydroelectrics it has large environment impact and dam failures tend to be the deadliest industrial disasters when they happen. Also most good locations have already been used. You cannot just build it wherever (without insane costs). Pumped hydro is hardly a solution here.

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          Pumped hydro isn’t the same as a hydroelectric dam. Because both reservoirs are engineered and you don’t have the concrete wall as the single point of failure, you don’t have the same risks involved. Pump Hydro can be whatever size you want and spread out to distribute the grid load.

          Also, are dam failures worse then Climate Change or are they just more dramatic?

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            Then you either have small cheap and safe, without much capacity (so you need many of those), or big, with the problems of the big hydroelectric projects.

            Of course pumped hydro has and will have its place in the grid, but it cannot solve all the energy storage problems.

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        Apparently you can do something similar with sand if you live in a desert.

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          Thermal sand batteries are a thing, I think?

          That was some solution talked about on Undecided.

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          Gravity Batteries? They’re much, much easier using water compared to solid masses.

          You could store solar energy as heat in sand and use turbines(if you have water) or Sterling Engines(if you don’t) to spine a generator. Peltiers are a solid state method to convert heat to electricity, but they aren’t very efficient.

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