But that’s the big lie, they are not producing what they claim, they are refurbishing it! They are replacing T-90s with BMP-1s and claim “we have more AFVs than at the start of the war!”
There are different kinds of Russian propaganda, to quote the Cold War Americans, you should never over- or underestimate them. This is going for the former, others go for the latter.
Supporting Ukraine is still the cheapest way to exhaust the invasion. Russia is running a campaign to scare people to hoard munitions for themselves.
Last I heard Russia is making about 100 tanks per month. Compared to what they had that is not much, but probably more than what Europe is capable of.
But it’s more the new stuff that makes them dangerous, like the drones and missiles.
I 100% agree that supporting Ukraine is our best strategy, and hopefully when Russia lose that war, their appetite for more will vanish.
We are also already learning from Ukraine how to defend against Russia, so Ukraine is our most important ally now, which is amazing since we can’t trust USA anymore.
That’s the point, it claims to make 100 per month, but that’s their claim including refurbs. In reality, their modern tank production in a war economy is around the same as the EU’s in peacetime, except even their “new” production is a lot of hull modernisations rather than new builds. And that does not even count with the fact that there is a big difference between the combat effectiveness of a T-90 or T-80 BVM and a new Leopard.
They are dangerous, but not to that degree. That 100 is more like 20-30 in reality, while we put out around 20-ish, but it’s direct orders rather than perpetual serial production because we’re at peace.
their “new” production is a lot of hull modernisations
Yeah their new tanks should be pretty awful, and the armor not very good.
IDK why, but a lot of high level politicians such as state leaders, warn that Russia might be planning to attack EU/NATO.
I don’t really understand why that should be the case, because I think we will be way superior if they do. Especially since we are learning from Ukraine, plus we have our own technologies that are better than what Russia has.
The Russian economy is also collapsing now, so the idea that Russia should be able to wage a perpetual war is false IMO.
I think two reasons. One is that Russia is already attacking, the hybrid war is in full swing.
The other is that we actually had to send soldiers to our borders in preparation if an invasion this year, but it wasn’t Russia but the US who was planning to invade.
The hybrid war has been going on for decades, where Russia has undermined EU/NATO/USA.
but it wasn’t Russia but the US who was planning to invade.
Yes I think that is a HUGE part of it, European politicians just don’t say it directly, because they don’t want to anger Trump more than necessary, but everybody knows we can’t trust USA anymore. Russia succeeded probably more than Putin ever dreamt of with USA, and Brexit was also in part his doing. Russian ties to Boris Johnson and Farage are well documented.
And obviously Hungarian and Slovakian governments are also heavily compromised by Russia.
But USA must stand as his greatest achievement, but I suspect Putin didn’t foresee the Europeans so determination to built a better defense for ourselves.
This is what the experts say, and it’s because Russia has turned into a war economy, and is producing military equipment like crazy.
That’s the opposite of Russian propaganda, because they are using the Ukrainian numbers!
Daily mail is often criticized here, but at least it’s not Murdoch and at least it’s not American, and it seems to me this article is pretty decent.
But that’s the big lie, they are not producing what they claim, they are refurbishing it! They are replacing T-90s with BMP-1s and claim “we have more AFVs than at the start of the war!”
There are different kinds of Russian propaganda, to quote the Cold War Americans, you should never over- or underestimate them. This is going for the former, others go for the latter.
Supporting Ukraine is still the cheapest way to exhaust the invasion. Russia is running a campaign to scare people to hoard munitions for themselves.
Last I heard Russia is making about 100 tanks per month. Compared to what they had that is not much, but probably more than what Europe is capable of.
But it’s more the new stuff that makes them dangerous, like the drones and missiles.
I 100% agree that supporting Ukraine is our best strategy, and hopefully when Russia lose that war, their appetite for more will vanish.
We are also already learning from Ukraine how to defend against Russia, so Ukraine is our most important ally now, which is amazing since we can’t trust USA anymore.
That’s the point, it claims to make 100 per month, but that’s their claim including refurbs. In reality, their modern tank production in a war economy is around the same as the EU’s in peacetime, except even their “new” production is a lot of hull modernisations rather than new builds. And that does not even count with the fact that there is a big difference between the combat effectiveness of a T-90 or T-80 BVM and a new Leopard.
They are dangerous, but not to that degree. That 100 is more like 20-30 in reality, while we put out around 20-ish, but it’s direct orders rather than perpetual serial production because we’re at peace.
I don’t know how many refurbs it includes these days. As I understand it, the lots are pretty empty.
There are still things there, just not much that is younger than 50 years or easily repairable.
But a rusty T-72 hull without a turret or engine may still start a new life as a “new” T-90.
will it be counted as such by osint nerds pouring over photos, though?
Yeah their new tanks should be pretty awful, and the armor not very good.
IDK why, but a lot of high level politicians such as state leaders, warn that Russia might be planning to attack EU/NATO.
I don’t really understand why that should be the case, because I think we will be way superior if they do. Especially since we are learning from Ukraine, plus we have our own technologies that are better than what Russia has.
The Russian economy is also collapsing now, so the idea that Russia should be able to wage a perpetual war is false IMO.
I think two reasons. One is that Russia is already attacking, the hybrid war is in full swing.
The other is that we actually had to send soldiers to our borders in preparation if an invasion this year, but it wasn’t Russia but the US who was planning to invade.
The hybrid war has been going on for decades, where Russia has undermined EU/NATO/USA.
Yes I think that is a HUGE part of it, European politicians just don’t say it directly, because they don’t want to anger Trump more than necessary, but everybody knows we can’t trust USA anymore. Russia succeeded probably more than Putin ever dreamt of with USA, and Brexit was also in part his doing. Russian ties to Boris Johnson and Farage are well documented.
And obviously Hungarian and Slovakian governments are also heavily compromised by Russia.
But USA must stand as his greatest achievement, but I suspect Putin didn’t foresee the Europeans so determination to built a better defense for ourselves.