Edit: Damn, did not expect this to turn into today’s struggle sesh.
Here’s my both sides/both sides take. Should people be executed for drawing, publishing or showing hateful cartoons? Probably not.
What grosses me out is how Enlightened Secular France has spent centuries colonizing and brutalizing muslims and continues to oppress them with discriminatory laws while acting like the entire point of Free Speech TM is the right to degrade a profoundly marginalized minority.
As someone brought up in this thread, the whole Mohammad cartoon controversy reminds me of the perennial debate “why would a black person get violent if you call them the n-word, it’s just a word.” Context matters, when you purposely provoke an oppressed minority by shoving the thing they find most offensive in their face, you may get a violent reaction.
I don’t think this guy deserves to die at all, but Charlie Hebdo is very racist and it’s gross how people rally around it like it’s this bastion of free speech.
That said, death to A Wyatt Mann. Inshallah.
posting a nazi cartoon on the wall of a synagogue to show our commitment to western values
It would be on brand…
yep, the good old muslim opressing colonial state is back again to piss in the eye of every one of their muslim second class citizen because an amped up psycho chopped off a neck. its liberalism time
My big issue here is not that they’re publishing Islamaphobic cartoons, but that a Secular TM government is republishing and distributing them. Free Speech is a right of the citizen. The government should not be insulting any religion or culture.
“To prove how much I don’t believe in God, I’m gonna call you a (racist invective), it’s the only way”
This is the stupidest shit
For a supposed secular, rational nation, the government giving the go-ahead to broadcast a dumb cartoon and then say “we will break the will of the Islamists” is complete fucking posturing
What does this accomplish? “Let’s alienate our most important population in this struggle–the ordinary Muslims that can act as informants or the voice of reason for the maniacs in their community. Let’s treat this like a huge cultural attack as opposed to a conventional crime. Let’s show that their attacks will cause our entire country to stop what it’s doing and freak out. Look at us, look at us”
It’s the idealized victimhood narrative of Christendom writ onto a state
I’m not going to defend a dude beheading a teacher. Fuck any religious extremism.
I don’t know anything about France and I haven’t seen anything approaching a leftist analysis of the situation either here or on reddit. When the news of beheading were discussed on news subs the only leftist voices among the right-wing bullshit were going “well, that’s what France gets for centuries of colonialism and imperialism” which doesn’t seem like a useful take.
The correct leftist take is:
The murder was wrong. Respect religious minorities and their beliefs. These cartoons are an outgrowth of French Islamaphobia, rooted in centuries of racism and imperialism. The murderer got what he deserved. The government should not be promoting propaganda against minority religions, especially if it has a long history of oppressing them.
It’s possible to consider two things to be bad at the same time
It’s also possible not to lib things up to the point where you are equating terrorist attacks and murders with cartoons.
Take notice that people’s issue isn’t work the cartoon, it’s with the government response and rhetoric.
