Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.
Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.
What a joke.
I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.
For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206
The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919
The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon
The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza
The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.
Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.
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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)
But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.
It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.
- Mehdi Hasan
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza
edit personal DM from goat taunting me for the other thread being locked before I could fully explain myself and get a solid answer from Lemmy World.
Biden can’t be both mentally infirm and an evil genius. LOL.
Biden repeatedly described himself as a Zionist, but meant it in the old use of the term… Supporting a Jewish state in the wake of the Holocaust. Remember, Biden is SUPER old.
Biden supported genocide. Just like you.
LOL. You spout words with zero comprehension.
Let me break it down one last time:
There is a specific definition for genocide, any single one of these is enough to justify a call of genocide:
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2?activeTab
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? ✅
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ✅
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? ✅
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ✅
© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? ✅
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ✅
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? Not yet, give it a minute.
The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ❌
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Israel in Gaza? ✅
Israel in Lebanon? Not quite yet, ETA in 3-2-1… The US in Gaza? ❌
The US in Iran? ❌
The most you could say is that by NOT acting, the US is guilty of C, but failing to take action is not the same thing as “deliberately inflicting.”
We have laws preventing us from selling weapons that we know will be used for genocide. You may pretend to believe that breaking those laws, as Biden did, is not genocide support. But you know better. Biden supported genocide and you’re pretending he didn’t because you’re a pro-genocide liar.
Your justification above ignores that Biden sold weapons that he and everyone else knew absolutely would be used for genocide and no other purpose.
Prove he knew and did it anyway. Find any public statement allowing Israel to do this. You can’t because he didn’t.
Israel is guilty of genocide, you’re welcome to blame the killers. Don’t blame Biden because you have a hard on to hate America.
There is your proof fool, Biden’s staff began resigning to try to desperately get the message through.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._officials_who_resigned_over_Biden's_support_for_Israel_in_the_Gaza_war
Also it is pathetic y’all locked the thread on your community but you can’t resist still arguing about it here. Pick a lane.
As long as Biden didn’t come out and say “I’m selling weapons for genocide” as he was selling weapons for genocide, Jordan will pretend in the worst possible faith that biden didn’t support the genocide he spent the last year of his presidency supporting.
It is also a dumb argument because WHY would Biden do that? It is an argument gesturing at an alternative that makes no sense.
He knows Biden supported genocide. He knows his arguments to the contrary are ridiculous. He also knows that he can abuse his petty authority to enforce an echo chamber in which contradicting his obvious ridiculous argument is forbidden.
He’s here to gloat about his pro-genocide fiefdom.
If I quit my job because I think my boss is a terrorist, it doesn’t mean they actually ARE, just that I believe they are. 😉
The thread in the community was locked because it’s off topic. I always lock removed threads.
But if you REALLY want the conversation, I mean REALLY want it, why have you STILL not posted the removed articles to !world@lemmy.world
Genuinely asking. The articles you posted were GOOD articles, just not appropriate for !politics@lemmy.world
Folks who make honest mistakes in posting generally just go “Oh, sorry” and re-post it in a place that is appropriate:
(directed them to !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world )
Biden supports genocide and so do you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor
“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”
Not the point I was making, the point I was making was Biden knew and so did his staff.
Why are you still discussing it then?
Further, a defense of removing a post because it was off topic when my criticism was that the rules are biased, broken and fundamentally inconsistent with logic is not a rebuttal but a doubling down on the very structure I am pointing out is problematic.
Because I am advocating for people to boycott these communities given the extremely problematic and broken moderation of them. In short, why would I post there, y’all have broken my trust.
Moderation isn’t broken. You broke the rules and went into whiny little bitch mode instead of putting the appropriate story in the appropriate community as directed.
Which means, as I suspected, you’re only interested in the drama and not actually the genocide or promoting news stories. Good to know!
If he didn’t know, then he was unfit to be president. You can’t tell me that his entire cabinet didn’t know and that no one thought to tell him. This isn’t the trump administration where anyone who tells the president the truth gets fired in a fit of pique.
Don’t absolve biden just because you can’t get hard without thinking about dead Palestinian children.