• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      So, is China capitalist?

      They seem to be employing a central planning model out of a public sector unconcerned with maximizing personal profits. So… No?

      Is it communist?

      Not yet. They appear to be exploring Socialism, but with a particular set of Chinese Characteristics. I think they’re even a book on the subject.

      Thank you for your totally not subjective reply.

      No problem.

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        5 months ago

        China’s economic system is called authoritarian capitalism. It has more billionaires than the United States.

        Also, please don’t call China “socialist.” It’s offensive and feeds into the false right-wing narrative that socialism is fascistic.

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          China’s economic system is called authoritarian capitalism. It has more billionaires than the United States.

          Please read China Has Billionaires. Nobody believes China to have achieved full socialization, but it does have strong central planning.

          Also, please don’t call China “socialist.” It’s offensive and feeds into the false right-wing narrative that socialism is fascistic.

          What is Socialism, and what is Fascism, in your eyes? You don’t appear to be working off of Marxism with respect to Socialism, and you don’t appear to be working off of Ur-Fascism for your point on fascism.

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            I’m always happy to discuss socialism, anarchism, fascism, or any other topic in political philosophy, which I’ve spent half my life studying, but not with people who link PRC authoritarian propaganda. I’ve blocked you so don’t bother replying.

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              You’re literally on a Marxist community, I am going to link Marxists. Red Sails is a Marxist site, and Roderic Day is a Marxist. I know you blocked me, but for anyone else wandering in here, please actually be willing to engage with Marxism, without wrecking and crying about it.

              You evidently were not willing to discuss Socialism or fascism. This is ridiculous, and you are no useful member of any mass Leftist movement if you can’t be willing to confront your previously held biases for even a milisecond, even if to ultimately argue in favor of them.

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          China’s economic system is called authoritarian capitalism.

          Under the colonial model, China exported a great deal of its wealth overseas. Post-WW2, they have domesticated their wealth and accumulated capital/infrastructure for the benefit of the local working population. This transition, from colonial expropriation to domestic social development, is a crucial stepping stone towards the Socialist mode of production.

          Also, please don’t call China “socialist.” It’s offensive

          eye-roll

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      China is Socialist, in that it’s a transitional economy. There’s a large and robust Private Sector with strong central planning. It’s nowhere near fully Socialized, and nowhere near Communist, but it is a transitional economy.