• hark@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    In 2008 no one expected roe to be overturned

    Why would they craft a bill to protect against that possibility if no one expected it?

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      3 months ago

      We thought we had time and could do other things like health care for sick kids.

      We didn’t realize what enormous fucking dipshit assholes the republiQans were fine with being.

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          War for oil, yes. That we expected. Crimes against humanity, sure. Making a woman’s body the property of the state, just right-out; not as much. And every confirmation hearing they’d ask: what about Roe? And they’d all sheepishly whisper yeah we know it’s settled law, etc.

          Besides, if they did it - just out-and-out overturned fucking Roe v Wade can you imagine the shitstorm they’d face? Half the country would demand their heads on pikes!

          . . . Waitaminit . . . Statue of Liberty . . . gasp! That was our planet!!

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        3 months ago

        We thought we had time and could do other things like health care for sick kids.

        And “we” couldn’t even do that. Just gave enormous subsidies to private insurance instead. Did nothing to control the price of medical care so that nowadays we have people dying because the price of insulin exploded (just one example). All because Democrats had to compromise with conservatives even with what should have been a fillibuster-proof majority.

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          Huge populations of people who couldn’t see doctors before, now could. And it was moving mountains to get that. Yeah, it was Romneycare, that’s what we could get at the end of the day. Want H4A? Me too. Let’s vote in overwhelming majorities then ride them until they deliver.

          That’s why, when our precious progressiver-than-yous bitch about everything not being a literal paradise and therefore they can’t help progress I want to utter unspeakable unholy curses. It takes a lot of work. And it’s twice as hard when both the so-called-left and the right are against it.

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            3 months ago

            Democrats had an overwhelming when they passed obamacare.it was conservative Democrats who refused to vote for single payer. If Democrats had fallen in line and voted with their party it would have passed without any Republican votes needed, but the Blue Dogs said “no”.

            Of course it’s difficult. It’s especially difficult when the party that claims to be progressive refuses to pass progressive policies when they have the opportunity to.

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              3 months ago

              50%+1 is all that’s required to overturn the filibuster. Pelosi chose to let the blue-dog democrats block single-payer because they were getting shittons of money from the insurance companies.

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      4 months ago

      Why did progressives craft the Green New Deal if they knew it wasn’t going to ever pass?

      Also it was in response to states passing restrictions. They were not worried about the Supreme Court overturning roe. Two different concerns .

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        In bargaining you initially overshoot so that you have room to negotiate down and you can still achieve at least some of what you want. The Freedom of Choice Act is a different situation where it’s defending a right that already exists.