Had mine done through the NHS. Basically two questions, “do you have children already” and “how long since your last child was born?”.
If you haven’t had kids yet, you just need to explain why you want a vasectomy, usually with a specialist. If your last child was born less than two months ago, they want you to wait (apparently a lot of men’s first reaction to the realities of having a baby is to try to ensure it won’t happen again).
Because like it or not, it’s not the doctors job to do whatever you want no questions asked. It’s to evaluate need, desire, and risks and advise and act accordingly.
The doctor who would perform an unnecessary procedure without doing that is just as bad as the one who refuses. Maybe worse.
Sterilization is quite a bit different from abortion.
An abortion is a choice not to have a child. Sterilization is a choice to permanently alter your body such that you can never have children.
A doctor talking to a patient to ensure they understand a procedure and it’s consequences and that those consequences are what they want when those consequences are permanent is just responsible.
It’s entirely the patients decision, but that doesn’t mean the doctor shouldn’t confirm their intent.
I don’t know why you’d disapprove of doctors making sure patients understand the consequences of a permanent procedure before agreeing to do it.
Hell, we expect tattoo artists to make sure people want the outcome they’re asking for before putting ink to skin, and to refuse if they think you might not be thinking clearly. (Most won’t actually tattoo drunk people for example).
Because medical ethics requires some degree of confidence that you’re not making a permanent decision that you’ll regret.
Unnecessary hurdles like mandatory waiting periods, refusing to do it without someone else’s consent, or refusal to do it at all if you’re childless are wrong, but making sure someone understands the procedure and it’s consequences and that what they’re asking for is actually solving the complaint they want to solve is just being responsible.
It is entirely your decision. It’s also their decision if they can ethically perform the procedure.
Some people read that a vasectomy can be reversed and understand that they are 100% reversible 100% of the time. If someone says they want a vasectomy so they can skip other forms of birth control until they’re ready to have kids, the doctor needs to correct their misunderstanding before they can ethically perform the procedure.
“Informed consent” requires making sure the individual is “informed”, “able to consent”, and “consenting”.
Sure, but you still need to convince someone else you are informed and educated on the risks and outcomes.
You get a handful of really bad stories, but most doctors just want to make sure they don’t have a patient knocking on their door complaining that this vasectomy thing isn’t what they wanted.
Because sometimes its about protecting yourself from yourself.
Making sure someone wants a vasectomy because they have all the children they want is a different thing from wanting a vasectomy as a jump scare reaction to just having had a baby and oh shit oh shit, let me do something I’ll regret later.
Fully agree that doctors take precautions with procedures that are hard to reverse or potentially irreversible.
If you want to be ignorant and dumb, be my guest, be careless, but we WILL stop you. This “but muh freedom”, FUCK your freedom. There are limits to everything, including freedoms.
Had mine done through the NHS. Basically two questions, “do you have children already” and “how long since your last child was born?”.
If you haven’t had kids yet, you just need to explain why you want a vasectomy, usually with a specialist. If your last child was born less than two months ago, they want you to wait (apparently a lot of men’s first reaction to the realities of having a baby is to try to ensure it won’t happen again).
Why should I have to explain my choices regarding my body? Take my money and do your job or don’t and I’ll go to someone else who will.
Because like it or not, it’s not the doctors job to do whatever you want no questions asked. It’s to evaluate need, desire, and risks and advise and act accordingly.
The doctor who would perform an unnecessary procedure without doing that is just as bad as the one who refuses. Maybe worse.
It doesn’t need to be necessary. It’s not their call. It’s no different from getting an abortion.
Sterilization is quite a bit different from abortion.
An abortion is a choice not to have a child. Sterilization is a choice to permanently alter your body such that you can never have children.
A doctor talking to a patient to ensure they understand a procedure and it’s consequences and that those consequences are what they want when those consequences are permanent is just responsible.
It’s entirely the patients decision, but that doesn’t mean the doctor shouldn’t confirm their intent.
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I’m honestly not sure what you’re disapproving of.
Yes you are.
Okay.
I don’t know why you’d disapprove of doctors making sure patients understand the consequences of a permanent procedure before agreeing to do it.
Hell, we expect tattoo artists to make sure people want the outcome they’re asking for before putting ink to skin, and to refuse if they think you might not be thinking clearly. (Most won’t actually tattoo drunk people for example).
Because medical ethics requires some degree of confidence that you’re not making a permanent decision that you’ll regret.
Unnecessary hurdles like mandatory waiting periods, refusing to do it without someone else’s consent, or refusal to do it at all if you’re childless are wrong, but making sure someone understands the procedure and it’s consequences and that what they’re asking for is actually solving the complaint they want to solve is just being responsible.
Doctors aren’t mechanics.
That’s entirely my decision. Bodily autonomy is most important.
It is entirely your decision. It’s also their decision if they can ethically perform the procedure.
Some people read that a vasectomy can be reversed and understand that they are 100% reversible 100% of the time. If someone says they want a vasectomy so they can skip other forms of birth control until they’re ready to have kids, the doctor needs to correct their misunderstanding before they can ethically perform the procedure.
“Informed consent” requires making sure the individual is “informed”, “able to consent”, and “consenting”.
That sounds fair enough tbh. You gotta know what the function of what you’re getting is.
Sure, but you still need to convince someone else you are informed and educated on the risks and outcomes.
You get a handful of really bad stories, but most doctors just want to make sure they don’t have a patient knocking on their door complaining that this vasectomy thing isn’t what they wanted.
That doctor would be paid by the NHS, not by you.
What’s NHS? I don’t have insurance.
NHS = National Health Service
It’s what we have in the UK, and essentially means that all your health care is free.
Vasectomy = free. Having a baby in hospital = free. CAT scan = free. Insulin = free.
Admittedly, it’s paid for in taxes, but at a small fraction of the cost of the American way of doing things.
Yeah I don’t have that.
Because sometimes its about protecting yourself from yourself.
Making sure someone wants a vasectomy because they have all the children they want is a different thing from wanting a vasectomy as a jump scare reaction to just having had a baby and oh shit oh shit, let me do something I’ll regret later.
Fully agree that doctors take precautions with procedures that are hard to reverse or potentially irreversible.
Never protect me from me.
Alright, so next time when you drunkenly stumble into a heavy traffic road, I’ll let you die
If infind you on the ground having a heart attack, I’ll just leave you to die
When you are about to eat poisonous food, I won’t warn you, go right ahead.
You “i never make mistakes!!” Guys are tiring
Let me die.
I have some tea for you. Come enjoy this meal.
I do like tea.
Yeah well, ain’t gonna happen.
If you want to be ignorant and dumb, be my guest, be careless, but we WILL stop you. This “but muh freedom”, FUCK your freedom. There are limits to everything, including freedoms.
Try it. We can both die.
Really? Arm chair death threats?
You’re a sad little fuck. Am I guessing correct that You’re one of those sovcit types?