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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • Depends on what he means by “ultra-processed”, but you can bet that it’s probably not a reasonable criteria that he’ll be using.

    The man isn’t rational, and doesn’t base his conclusions on sound reasoning.

    Note the call to lessen regulations around “raw milk, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine”. That’s pretty insane.

    And I can almost be certain that what they’ll do is eliminate funding for snap benefits and school lunches going to what they’ll classify as “ultra processed foods”, without adjusting funding to account for what they left behind being significantly more expensive. Some definitions of “ultra-processed” include things like “store bought bread”, “frozen meals”, “soup concentrate”, “yoghurt” and “sausage”.
    Call me cynical, but I think if you apply the stricter work requirements for benefits they always want, while reducing the scope of the benefits to cover fewer things, and almost nothing helpful for the people with the severe time restrictions the work requirements can cause you’ll end up seeing people use the benefits far less often, because they give less usable food for the money. Then they’ll use that to justify reducing the size of the program even further.

    We expect people making school lunches to make hundreds of meals that finish at the same time, to have the meal be nutritionally complete, tasty, and now also not use frozen or premade ingredients. We give them literally $1 for the ingredients for these meals, and maybe another $2 for operational overhead like labor costs and equipment.
    Saying you can’t use canned tomato sauce, peanut butter, pre-packaged bread or ground meats is basically just cutting funding for feeding children under the guise of not paying for a scary sounding classification of food.










  • And, for reference, the US ingredients list:

    • Corn flour blend (whole grain yellow corn flour, degerminated yellow corn flour)
    • sugar
    • wheat flour
    • whole grain oat flour
    • modified food starch
    • contains 2% or less of vegetable oil (hydrogenated coconut, soybean and/or cottonseed)
    • oat fiber
    • maltodextrin
    • salt
    • soluble corn fiber
    • natural flavor
    • red 40
    • yellow 5
    • blue 1
    • yellow 6
    • Vitamins and Minerals:
    • Vitamin C (ascorbic acid)
    • reduced iron
    • niacinamide
    • vitamin B6 (pyridoxine hydrochloride)
    • vitamin B2 (riboflavin)
    • vitamin B1 (thiamin hydrochloride)
    • folic acid
    • vitamin D3
    • vitamin B12

    Which is basically the same. Biggest difference seems to be the food coloring.



  • Meanwhile, Dems simply don’t seem to care. They don’t repeal gerrymanders. They don’t amend the VOA. They don’t expand mail in voting. They don’t implement DC statehood.

    I mean, in Michigan they did, at least as far as Michigan has the power to do so. It amounted to fuck all.

    So while it’s all well and good to continuously look for a way to blame the outcome on one abstract institution or another, at some point you have to just say “fuck the voters who voted for a fascist, and fuck the ones who didn’t vote against him”.




  • Totally. And the staff is also pretty reasonable about how it’s ultimately just a fun way to get food you might not have thought of.
    I usually tell them I hate sour cream and they’ll let me know if I should get something else, which is technically against the “rules”, but it’s also just pizza that I’m paying for and not a national secret or anything.


  • They do ask you to let them know if you have any allergies, and they do tell you what everything is when they give it to you. You’re not at risk for eating something you can’t. You’d have to not tell them when they ask, and then ignore them when they told you the ingredients.


  • I get people wanting to defend the “traditional” preparation of a food, because otherwise you get into weird philosophical “burrito of Theseus” issues, but… You can just slap “non-traditional” on it and then carry on and enjoy the food. If you feel really strongly or it’s really out there, call it a fucked up ____ inspired whatever.

    One of the best pizzas I ever had was at a pizza place near me that has a “trust us” pizza, where you don’t know what it is, but it’s new and definitely worth the cost (they’re not giving you a plain cheese pizza). It was like a strawberry and anduille pizza with a seasoned sweet white sauce. It was weirdly good.