• Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    Trains-but-worse

    Oh boy I love trains-but-worse, their my favorite kind of trains

    Seriously why not trains-but-good?

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        3 months ago

        Switzerland.

        Japan has outstanding high speed rail but that’s pretty much it. Local train servives are, from what I’ve heard, subpar in terms of frequency. The share of goods transported via rail is also comparatively low.

        Check out these numbers and sort by each colum, Switzerland is always near the top (for population/size adjusted values)

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_rail_transport_network_size#Countries_with_active_network

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          3 months ago

          Your link doesn’t show Switzerland at the top except their network is completely electric.

          Having been to both countries without a car, Japan is not subpar in terms of local services. They’re very different though because they have such different size and population densities.

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            3 months ago

            Switzerland has:

            • the lowest amount of area per km of track, except for micro nations
            • a fairly low amount of population per km of track - among the top 10 if population density is considered
            • lost less than 10% of tracks since its historical peak
            • a majority nationalized rail network
            • (as you mentioned) a fully electrified network

            While I haven’t travelled in Japan by rail (or any other mode), I have been to Switzerland. From what I’ve heard, in Japan there are many smaller local stations, where an ancient train arrives a few times a day.

            Whereas in Switzerland, it seems like nearly every local station has at least one train per hour.

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        3 months ago

        The fact that it’s Japan (a place with a damn good rep for trains) planning to make a giant conveyor system between 2 cities rather than a freight line is what’s so shocking to me.

        They’re going to have to clear a lot of stuff for a big conveyor system why not do it properly and go with freight trains?

        Trains are a tried and true method of moving freight, they have a bunch of skilled engineers already versed in trains, they have all the necessary industry for getting the parts for those trains built, etc, etc. This just screams stupid AF and wasteful AF to me.

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          3 months ago

          They’re going to have to clear a lot of stuff for a big conveyor system why not do it properly and go with freight trains?

          They would have to do the exact same thing for trains, though. Do you have any comments on the actual differences in the projects, or do you only have (probably rightfully-placed, but still) knee-jerk reactions to your favorite vehicle?

          • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            3 months ago

            I see you stopped reading my comment there.

            I listed some reasons in the comment literally right after that.

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              3 months ago

              I listed some reasons in the comment literally right after that.

              “Trains already exist” doesn’t address literally any part of the other project. Horses existed before cars, too.