My thing is nuclear war… I’m probably not even going to know I’m dead by the time it happens. Fascism and climate? I’m gonna know I’m fucked for quite a while before I die.
I can’t upvote or downvote you, because In some ways you’re right; humanity has never had a time without hardships. But some times and places had it much, much easier than at any other time or place.
We are heading for doom. Regardless of how or when it goes down, our species ends. We aren’t making it off this planet, I can tell you that. Even with a long term base on Mars, it’s supplied by earth.
And that’s an optimistic view. We will not advance enough to make it out of this solar system. And without doing so, we are automatically doomed. You could say that we have that technology within reach, and maybe we do. But we’re not going down the path that would make that technology likely with the time we have left. The biggest economy in the world is turning it’s back on science, and our planet is actively trying to kill us to keep itself alive because of what we’ve done and continue to do.
In fact I’d say that our continuous advances in tech has only a few decades left before climate change destroys our ability to continue our tech. It’ll pick and choose who lives until we don’t have the people left that were needed to get us out of this mess.
We are doomed. It’s just on us to figure out if we can exist as a society for 5 more years, 40 more years, 80 more? 80 years gets us to 2105 where most of our climate goals end. We’ve blown past 1.5C, and showing no signs of slowing down. In fact it’s speeding up. And we’re finding the results are worse than expected, the rate is faster than expected. I don’t think we can get fully off this planet in less than 50 years.
I say 50, because 80 is like, doomsday, it’s over. 80 years from now, you’ll be lucky to be able to send a rocket up with clear weather and a station that wasn’t already destroyed.
So we have 50 ish years to make it to a habitable place outside of earth and make it self-sufficient. We likely won’t even be back on the moon until 2030 or so. Another 10-15 to get to Mars? That’s just a landing. Not a self-sufficient base. Besides, that’s a dead planet. Sure, you could mine ore and ice and make some stuff and some fuel, but not enough to make it to Saturns moons. Even if you could, and you had earths help, are there people knowledgeable enough left on earth to make it happen as people are taken out by climate left right and center? That’s not including malnourishment, opportunity, wars, illness, etc.
This species is doomed. We just need to try to make it as long as we can. That means working together, stopping genocide, minimalizing fossil fuel use, advancing education, equal opportunities, clean air and water, taxing the ultra-rich… But yeah. Sure. That’ll happen in time to save us.
Right, I’m not saying humanity only has ~80 yrs left, just society. Humanity could limp along for a few more centuries, but it won’t be a good existence.
Is it bad that I don’t fear nuclear war at all compared to the other 2?
Of course not. We are firmly in the middle of crises of fascism and climate. If we don’t deal with both, life will be much worse in the future.
Nuclear war…I mean, whatever you want to say, we are not currently in the middle of a nuclear war.
We’re more in between nuclear wars at the moment.
My thing is nuclear war… I’m probably not even going to know I’m dead by the time it happens. Fascism and climate? I’m gonna know I’m fucked for quite a while before I die.
Well I’m not saying live your life in fear but, yes
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I can’t upvote or downvote you, because In some ways you’re right; humanity has never had a time without hardships. But some times and places had it much, much easier than at any other time or place.
We are heading for doom. Regardless of how or when it goes down, our species ends. We aren’t making it off this planet, I can tell you that. Even with a long term base on Mars, it’s supplied by earth.
And that’s an optimistic view. We will not advance enough to make it out of this solar system. And without doing so, we are automatically doomed. You could say that we have that technology within reach, and maybe we do. But we’re not going down the path that would make that technology likely with the time we have left. The biggest economy in the world is turning it’s back on science, and our planet is actively trying to kill us to keep itself alive because of what we’ve done and continue to do.
In fact I’d say that our continuous advances in tech has only a few decades left before climate change destroys our ability to continue our tech. It’ll pick and choose who lives until we don’t have the people left that were needed to get us out of this mess.
We are doomed. It’s just on us to figure out if we can exist as a society for 5 more years, 40 more years, 80 more? 80 years gets us to 2105 where most of our climate goals end. We’ve blown past 1.5C, and showing no signs of slowing down. In fact it’s speeding up. And we’re finding the results are worse than expected, the rate is faster than expected. I don’t think we can get fully off this planet in less than 50 years.
I say 50, because 80 is like, doomsday, it’s over. 80 years from now, you’ll be lucky to be able to send a rocket up with clear weather and a station that wasn’t already destroyed.
So we have 50 ish years to make it to a habitable place outside of earth and make it self-sufficient. We likely won’t even be back on the moon until 2030 or so. Another 10-15 to get to Mars? That’s just a landing. Not a self-sufficient base. Besides, that’s a dead planet. Sure, you could mine ore and ice and make some stuff and some fuel, but not enough to make it to Saturns moons. Even if you could, and you had earths help, are there people knowledgeable enough left on earth to make it happen as people are taken out by climate left right and center? That’s not including malnourishment, opportunity, wars, illness, etc.
This species is doomed. We just need to try to make it as long as we can. That means working together, stopping genocide, minimalizing fossil fuel use, advancing education, equal opportunities, clean air and water, taxing the ultra-rich… But yeah. Sure. That’ll happen in time to save us.
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Right, I’m not saying humanity only has ~80 yrs left, just society. Humanity could limp along for a few more centuries, but it won’t be a good existence.
Well I’m not saying live your life in fear but, yes