Hey all. I’d like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a ‘ceding the issue’ way. Over the past year I’ve been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I’ve internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it’s taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we’ve roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I’ll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we’ll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

  • MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    17·
    9 months ago

    Did they burn stars of david in Auschwitz? Or is this referring to the forced wearing of the star of David as recognition at the camp? Or that they were forced to wear it to their deaths? Please believe me when I say I’m genuinely trying to learn this part. I did not ever associate burning a SoD as a reference to the Holocaust, except when context showed it to be so, but might need to change that. That, again, when done outside the context of the Israeli flag, because that’s different as most agree here.

      • SuperNovaCouchGuy2 [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        19·
        9 months ago

        but it makes burning a star of David rather than other means of destruction a direct reference to the ovens

        Unless the “star of David” is on the pissraeli flag, then it’s a direct reference to how the state of pissrael and it’s genocidal supporters should be destroyed.

        bulldozer pushing it away

        Like the bulldozers pissrael uses to crush people and destroy their homes? You are a fucking abomination.

      • trinicorn [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        16·
        9 months ago

        I’d maybe be onboard with this if it weren’t for the long history of flag-burning as protest. Clearly it’s not an allusion to the holocaust, its flag burning in disapproval of the political entity the flag represents, same as any other flag burning. it’s not burning solely the star, nor is it burning anyone in effigy, it’s specifically and only the flag.