• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    Can someone knowledgeable here explain this projection in relation to green policies and carbon goals?

    I assume they are now (even) less likely to be in form of mandates and we are moving towards ‘capitalism (with a lil stimulus push here and there) will solve the problem it created’?
    Tho maybe nuclear energy could also get a little bit more (re)renewed traction?

    Also, the whole internet surveillance isn’t going away now, is it?

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      With the German Pirate Party loosing its seat a strong voice against surveilance is lost.

      They also supplied NGOs with information directly from the legislative process, allowing them to act faster (and sometimes you have to be very fast to comment on minor changes with great effect) I hope somebody else at least partly takes on this role.

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        Too bad, yeah. But Patrick became a father and wants to continue his job as a judge at home. His work will be missed.

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      Anything blue or on the right of blue will vote against green policies. That’s your threshold I guess. Same for surveillance (blue ->pro).

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        *everything yellow an right of yellow

        another 5 years lost in the time critical task to slow climate change, i could cry …

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          That’s not correct. As far as I know, VOLT for example is part of the reformers “yellow”, and they will vote for climate stuff.

    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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      The parties consistently voting in favor of green policies were Greens, Left and Socialdemocrats, with Liberals and independents varying wildly. Some decarbonization goals are still in place, but the new equilibrium may vote to revoke some of them and the actual laws to enforce them for good will likely not be passed.

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      The EU past a lot of actually good policy in the last term. Namely ban of fossil fuel cars 2035, limiting certificates for the EUs carbon market, new carbon market for transport and housing and a bunch of other laws, which actually have some positive impact. For the most part the EU parliament was not only in favour, but activly pushing for it being one of the most pro enviromental policy parliaments in the world. That is probably going to stop and they likely try to kill some of the laws passed. So the key in the future will be defence for most enviromental groups. The laws which have been passed will lower emissions, but not fast enough.

      As for nuclear the EU is so far this year at 73.2% clean electricity. The large countries with a lot of fossil fuels are Poland, Italy and Germany. Of those only Poland is activly pushing for nuclear. The EU parliament is not able to force the other two to do that.

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        Here is a clip of a talk show where Robert Habeck of the green party explains why nuclear is not ecological:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xznqbpv0QE

        I think it is clear for most people that nuclear is not sustainable and only a short term solution. Now is actually a great opportunity to push for renewable energies also because it is important to get a foot into the market before China takes it all.

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          I don’t think they really care if it’s eco or not. It’s a 20-30 year boondoggle during which time they can carry on burning fossil fuels while vetoing anything green under the pretence of “but the nuclear is already on the way”.

          And by the time the nuclear is built, it won’t be enough (because of all the electric cars), so they’ll carry on with the coal and gas anyway.

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          Short term and nuclear do not belong in the same sentence. It takes a decade to build a single plant.

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      Tho maybe nuclear energy could also get a little bit more (re)renewed traction?

      Don’t hold your fingers closed, the oil lobby is behind the right, not the left.