Any site that is deemed to be “more than thirty-three and one-third percent of total material on a website” porn is required to ID Louisiana residents.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Sure this is silly and easily defeated by a vpn . But red states are headed for dark days as the GOP goes more and more fundie mode. It’s only a matter of how bad things will get and how quickly it will happen. “Protecting the children” and “terrorism” are often excuses that can easily lead to draconian laws on mainstream stuff.

    One way the GOP justices on the supreme court could go fundie mode by using the right to privacy as a bludgeon. Here’s a tweet thread about it. For brevity and clarity I edited it. If you want links - they are in the tweet thread.

    Roe v. Wade is based on the “right to privacy.” If the majority opinion by SCOTUS suggests that the constitution does not protect the right to privacy… that affects a WHOLE lot of other decisions. Buckle up - this is the beginning of a lot of potential ugliness.

    • Lawrence v. Texas: Decided in 2003, the court used the Right to Privacy to determine that it’s unconstitutional to punish people for committing sodomy. The Roe ruling could open the door for criminalizing homosexuality.

    • Griswold v. Connecticut: Decided in 1965, this case protects the ability of married couples to buy contraceptives without government restriction. This isn’t just about abortion. Next up, contraceptives.

    • Loving v. Virginia: This 1968 case, which threw out laws banning interracial marriages, was decided based on the right to privacy. If a state wanted to prohibit who people could marry - there is no protection from that without a right to privacy.

    • Stanley v Georgia: This 1969 case found that there was a right to privacy around possession pornography. If a state wants to outlaw pornography or certain forms of adult pornography, it could do that without the right to privacy.

    • Obergefell v. Hodges: The 2015 opinion that legalized same sex marriage used the right to privacy and the equal protection clause to do so. This could open the door for a state to try to test same sex marriage laws.

    • Meyer v. Nebraska: This 1923 ruling allows families to decide for themselves if they want their children to learn a language other than English. This could open the door for racist states to try to outlaw learning their family’s languages.

    • Skinner v Oklahoma: This 1942 ruling found that it’s unconstitutional to forcibly sterilize people. The Roe ruling could open the door for criminals, disabled people or BIPOC folks to be forcibly sterilized.

    Okay. That’s a quick overview of the judicial chaos that could occur in the aftermath of striking down Roe v Wade. All of these decisions might no longer be settled law and states could try to test them by creating laws designed to test the courts.

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      Simply clicking “yes I’m 18” on a website is some nonsense.

      Is it though? Trying to stop under-18s from getting a hold of porn is a foolish endeavor, just like trying to stop them from having sex. It’s going to happen no matter what you try. A simple “yes I’m 18” gives that “well we tried” so adults can act like it doesn’t happen if they want, and it would most likely keep out younger kids who happen to stumble on it somehow.

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    Good but also bad.

    I am absolutely ok with ID being a requirement for pornography access, it should be applied across all porn companies. The landscape of the internet could be transformed into gateways for this and compliance wouldn’t be that difficult in the longterm.

    On the other hand, I worry about government access to data on what kind of pornography you are watching. I think it’s very dangerous information.

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      4 years ago

      This is Louisiana.

      The law’s not for protecting minors, it’s for surveiling gay people.

      I’ll root for porn gatekeeping when the gatekeepers aren’t Christofascists that want me and mine dead.

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            4 years ago

            Could have a limited ID service that provides an age verification code that verifies age while not providing identity. Have it expire and require re-renewal every x number of days.

            The verification service will check your actual ID and then give you the age-verification code, the porn sites then only get that code from you with no link to you as an individual, they only have that code.

            It’s not perfect but that’s why you have it expire and require renewal. The point isn’t making it perfect but making it harder for children to access or stumble across this content.

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              sounds like a national ID system, pinko. I have a God given right to get onto domestic airplanes using only a credit card and renew my driver’s license using five kinds of utility bills and a letter from my grade school teacher

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                I’m ok with credit cards being the method of checking whether someone is 18 or not if that’s what you prefer. Can’t get a credit card without being 18 anyway. If you’re fine with using it for a plane you should be fine with using it for age codes.

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                  (sarcasm. For some reason you can get on a domestic plane without an ID, at least in 2018 they just asked me for a signed credit card w raised numbers. Probably a bad idea to tie private credit cards to public safety stuff and not everyone has credit cards.)