Joe Biden has launched one of his most scathing attacks yet on Donald Trump’s record of racism, suggesting that the former US president would have acted differently to the January 6 2021 insurrection if was led by Black people.

The remarks, at a dinner hosted by a civil rights organisation in a critical swing state, pointed to an intensifying battle between Biden and Trump for African American voters ahead of November’s presidential election.

“Let me ask you,” Biden said during an address to an NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) dinner in Detroit. “What do you think he would have done on January 6 if Black Americans had stormed the Capitol?”

There was a collective gasp and murmur in the cavernous convention centre, where an estimated 5,000 guests had gathered. The president insisted: “No, I’m serious. What do you think? I can only imagine.”

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    If you expect to be able to supply the weapons to a government engaged in a genocide against a population that also happens to be a requisite part of your winning coalition and still have them vote for you, then you are stupid beyond description.

    So with Biden putting a hold on weapon shipments to Israel over concerns about the citizens of Gaza, and the Republicans passing a bill forcing the weapons to be sent to Israel, your logic says that people shouldn’t vote for Republican legislators.

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      Do you even have the slightest idea who the largest voting block is? People don’t need to vote for a Republican for Biden to lose. They just have to not vote.

      It’s amazing you even posted that as a response.

      Sure, I would advocate for Republicans not voting for Republican legislators, if the Republican base wanted a ceasefire. But they don’t. The Republican party is afraid of their base. The Democratic party has contempt for theirs.

      Also, Biden already started shipping those weapons, regardless of that vote. Holding up the weapons temporarily was an attempt to look like he was doing something, same as the floating pier was. Did you even read the link? It hasn’t passed the Senate yet.

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        Do you even have the slightest idea who the largest voting block is? People don’t need to vote for a Republican for Biden to lose. They just have to not vote

        And who do you think is going to win then?

        Come January 2025, the next president will be either Biden or Trump. The election is your one chance to say which one. Act accordingly.

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          Too bad that Biden chose to alienate a requisite member of his coalition.

          Hold him accountable for his decisions.

          He chose an action, supporting genocide, that will cost him the general, and chose not to run a primary.

          Edit: I don’t understand these responses that try and imply voting is an individual moral decision. It has the same logic of blaming the consumer and individual choices for carbon based climate change instead of the people with culpability and power to change things.

          Edit edit: I think at this point, unless someone dies, that Trump will be elected. To be clear, I am not voting for Trump.

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              According to him your choices are nobody or Trump. So I guess write in the name of the perfect American over 35 and get back to your soaps.

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              That’s not what they’re saying. They’re saying other people won’t vote for Biden because he’s enabling a genocide of people from their community and it’s ridiculous to expect that they would. It’s easy to foresee what would happen and change tact, you know, like a politician. It’s not a prescription, it’s a description.

              Vote your conscious. Personally, if you’re in a swing state, I think you should vote Biden. But maybe also don’t jump in front of bullets to protect him from criticism because it’s not going to help him. Forcing him to try harder on this issue will help him. He’s even throwing up some token resistance now, like that temporary hold up a few weapons, so baby steps are happening. I mean, it sounds like he approved another $1 billion of weapons after that little stunt of temporarily holding up a couple, and he’s still condemning protestors and the UN trying to hold Israel accountable even while they walk right over his “red line” but hey, uh… Baby steps, I guess…

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                  I’ll answer this a fourth time, but no more since it’s clear you have no reading comprehension.

                  Whomever you want. It’s always been your decision. Just don’t blame the people personally impacted by Bidens decision to back a genocide when he loses.

                  Is this concept really that hard to understand?

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              That’s your decision.

              Don’t be surprised when the people that Joe Biden’s second term requires don’t vote for him because he supported the wholesale slaughter of their families.

              One person is responsible for that decision.

              Joe Biden.

              If you hate Trump, blame the person most responsible for his reelection.

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                It’s funny, every time I talk to someone like you who is explaining why not to vote for Biden and I ask them who I should vote for, they don’t give me a straight answer.

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                  I’m not explaining why not to vote for Biden.

                  Why do you think I’m doing that? Have you read anything I wrote, or are you just seeing words that you filter as ‘anti Biden’ and give a canned response?

                  I’m literally responding to someone calling Palestinian Americans and Muslim Americans stupid because they, as a bloc, don’t want to vote for the man that chose not to stop the slaughter of their families.

                  Vote for whomever you want.

                  Don’t scapegoat the people whose families were slaughtered in an ongoing genocide.

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                    Someone needs to beat this into your skull, in the current us voting system not voting for Biden is the same as voting for Trump.

                    Which one do you want to win? Neither are great, but Trump will lead to the complete annihilation of Palestinians in Gaza.

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                  I’d be offended if this was from someone that had even the slight ability to comprehend what they read.

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            All well and good, but I would rather not suffer through another four years (or more, the way he talks) of Trump just to teach Biden a lesson. Seems a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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              I’m not telling you who to vote for.

              All of this thread is off of a post calling Palestinian Americans and Muslim Americans stupid for not voting, as a bloc, for Biden.

              I am arguing against the scapegoating that will come against an enthic minority when the outcome of Biden’s actions are that he doesn’t get elected again.

              Vote for whomever you want. Don’t blame the family members of victims of an ongoing genocide for the outcome.