- cross-posted to:
- inperson@slrpnk.net
- climate_lm@slrpnk.net
- cross-posted to:
- inperson@slrpnk.net
- climate_lm@slrpnk.net
A reminder folks: people engage in this kind of radical protest because it works:
Results of two online experiments conducted with diverse samples (N = 2,772), including a study of the animal rights movement and a preregistered study of the climate movement, show that the presence of a radical flank increases support for a moderate faction within the same movement. Further, it is the use of radical tactics, such as property destruction or violence, rather than a radical agenda, that drives this effect. Results indicate the effect owes to a contrast effect: Use of radical tactics by one flank led the more moderate faction to appear less radical, even though all characteristics of the moderate faction were held constant. This perception led participants to identify more with and, in turn, express greater support for the more moderate faction. These results suggest that activist groups that employ unpopular tactics can increase support for other groups within the same movement, pointing to a hidden way in which movement factions are complementary, despite pursuing divergent approaches to social change.
Protests like this are not really worth it, especially if it leads to good people who care being imprisoned and thus not being able to affect anything at all because of that.
Organise and find kindred souls to work with you and then resist smartly by taking care of not getting caught and doing things that can’t be ignored but which don’t alienate the public. Its pretty much crime already to do anything that might be noticed, as is evident by this. So don’t play by their rules. People like this who are actually willing to do something are way too valuable to be wasted in prison.
There was a book called art of invisibility by Kevin D Mitnick which teaches how to stay safe regarding digital things. It should be free, but i’m not sure where you can find it beyond z-library. Its from 2017 so it might be outdated regarding how ai is likely going to be used for mass surveillance, but at least its good foundation for looking for more information about the subject.
People have been doing this because it works
Even more reason to practice proper opsec. Since they arrested him before he even managed to get near the airport its clear his plan was revealed somehow.
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ah, yes
It doesn’t.
evidence points out that it does.
if you’re going to assert it doesn’t, at least provide a shred of evidence - the person you’re replying to linked an academic paper, and your brilliant reply “nuh uh” doesn’t really carry the same gravitas.
This is synthetic research which doesn’t match the reality. A real life example would be XR in the UK which has like 20% support from the public, especially after they blocked ambulances and disrupted the tube. And that has led to a situation that if you want to talk about the environment everyone will look at you like you’re an XR degenerate, so the whole topic is slowly becoming a taboo.
if you’re going to assert it doesn’t, at least provide a shred of evidence - the person you’re replying to linked an academic paper, and your brilliant reply “nuh uh” doesn’t really carry the same gravitas.
and have yet to provide anything substantive - like links to research.
yes, yes, protest the safe way, never upset anyone, wouldn’t want anyone to notice the outrage and tyranny if it meant a tad bit of inconvenience.
You know what they call sanctioned protests? the good ones, the ones that got approval first and won’t upset anyone?
Parades.
This bullshit notion that no one can be inconvenienced for small things LIKE THE DEATH OF THE ECOSYSTEM or your REPUBLIC BURNING are moronic excuses the rich feed everyone else in order to maintain the status quo.
And you parroting the bullshit is doing their work for them. So keep licking the waffle soles of those boots, but don’t fucking tell me what to do because I ain’t listening to your bullshit
i think you misunderstood what i mean with alienating. I mean don’t do things even reasonable people wouldn’t support like blowing stuff up.
I specificially said dont play by their rules which includes not limiting yourself to sanctioned protests and such.
we have one atmosphere. perhaps it’s time to upset people’s comfort zone if it means there’s one for future generations.
definitely, people have been really mild and toothless about this.