i HATE microsoft. am a software developer. but literally corporations make you use their shit. how could you even avoid it? having no job or something?
well 'scuse you, but you said you were a software developer. any SW dev worth their money can at the very least get a self-administrated technical device not to be hooked up to the intranet, because corporate IT sucks donkeyballs.
if I have to explain to you what the point of a technical device that you can self-administrate would be, then chances are you are not a software developer.
… What purpose would a not-connected-to-the-intranet device serve for my job which requires I check in my code to the local fucking intranet.
You have no fucking idea what software developers do, do you? You think IT is going to be fine with usb drives being used to transfer proprietary code back and forth - that’s a security nightmare and not worth the effort. Not that it would work because the is be unable to connect to the servers or databases the code I’m developing uses.
Having a self administered machine, in the office, that I can’t use to do my job is pointless
Thank you for confirming you have never worked in an office.
None of my desk jobs have ever allowed a personal computer because of the risk of data leaking.
Was cautioned about an employee at our competitor who used a personal device, it was stolen and it had client data on it including some of their IP, and when that client took legal action, because the employee acted out of company policy they were on the hook for it.
-> technical device - for productive employees that’s an actual option, but you may have to prove to the organization that they benefit from enabling your full potential
only in jobs were you’d be looking for a way out. The only things you can’t do in LibreOffice is be 100% layout identical with the same document opened in Nadella-asshole-soft office (but still you get reasonably close), use macros (and people who create documents with non-VBA macros deserve to be slapped anyways) or use VBA (that’s the real downside, especially in spreadsheet calculations). LibreOffice Basic isn’t really practical to use, sadly.
Uhh, no. There are collaborative tools in Office that are used by the sorts of people who don’t know what LibreOffice is. There’s also certain internal policies that tend to classify information in ways that work with Office.
i HATE microsoft. am a software developer. but literally corporations make you use their shit. how could you even avoid it? having no job or something?
There are many software solutions but people just pretend they don’t exist. Herd mentality. If you water a plant it grows.
when YOUR JOB says, “here’s Outlook, fucking use it” what else can you do. did you even read what i wrote?
i wish Libre’s spreadsheets weren’t such ass compared to excel…
? How? -> LibreOffice
Have you never worked in an office before? IT doesn’t just let you install whatever you want on work machines.
We know alternatives exist… They’re not always available.
well 'scuse you, but you said you were a software developer. any SW dev worth their money can at the very least get a self-administrated technical device not to be hooked up to the intranet, because corporate IT sucks donkeyballs.
What would be the point of that?
You’re just saying dumb shit now to avoid having to admit you’re just wrong.
if I have to explain to you what the point of a technical device that you can self-administrate would be, then chances are you are not a software developer.
… What purpose would a not-connected-to-the-intranet device serve for my job which requires I check in my code to the local fucking intranet.
You have no fucking idea what software developers do, do you? You think IT is going to be fine with usb drives being used to transfer proprietary code back and forth - that’s a security nightmare and not worth the effort. Not that it would work because the is be unable to connect to the servers or databases the code I’m developing uses.
Having a self administered machine, in the office, that I can’t use to do my job is pointless
Thank you for confirming you have never worked in an office.
Whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night.
Why do so many people on lemmy keep saying this as if it suddenly makes the rest of their argument less stupid?
Or if you use your own machine, you still have to collaborate in ways that require Office for one reason or another.
None of my desk jobs have ever allowed a personal computer because of the risk of data leaking.
Was cautioned about an employee at our competitor who used a personal device, it was stolen and it had client data on it including some of their IP, and when that client took legal action, because the employee acted out of company policy they were on the hook for it.
-> technical device - for productive employees that’s an actual option, but you may have to prove to the organization that they benefit from enabling your full potential
only in jobs were you’d be looking for a way out. The only things you can’t do in LibreOffice is be 100% layout identical with the same document opened in Nadella-asshole-soft office (but still you get reasonably close), use macros (and people who create documents with non-VBA macros deserve to be slapped anyways) or use VBA (that’s the real downside, especially in spreadsheet calculations). LibreOffice Basic isn’t really practical to use, sadly.
Uhh, no. There are collaborative tools in Office that are used by the sorts of people who don’t know what LibreOffice is. There’s also certain internal policies that tend to classify information in ways that work with Office.
I know. But I do not see how those would keep the knowledgeable people from working in LibreOffice and saving their documents in OOXML.
If an organization relies on “classifying information in ways that work with Office”, the IT security probably has no idea what they are doing.