• Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    is conditional on us agreeing with you.

    Not exactly. If anything it’s conditional on you not selling your allies/kin down the river.

    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      4 months ago

      Except that by misgendering her you’re causing harm to the trans community as a whole. We don’t misgender cisgender people when they are bad people. Misgendering transgender people who do bad things only shows that respecting transgender identity is conditional and can be revoked by other people. It’s not. It’s who we are. Even if someone is a trash fire human being they still should be gendered correctly.

      Transphobes will read comments misgendering or deadnaming Caitlyn and cheer along. There are far, far better ways to vocalize disapproval of her. Ways that don’t hurt other trans people.

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        We don’t misgender cisgender people when they are bad people.

        We don’t? I could have sworn cisgender people do that to insult each other all the time. It’s like a classic insult.

        Discussing acceptable insults, while technically possible, seems somewhat irrational. The concept of an ethical insult doesn’t make total sense.

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          4 months ago

          It all boils down to the very common phenomenon of thinking certain people, “bad people,” are worthy of any form of attack available.

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        4 months ago

        I appreciate your point. A few months ago I was in a discussion with someone on Lemmy about the strategy of maliciously complying with someone that has insincerely stated a preference for neo-pronouns. The example in the discussion was Elon Musk claiming “prosecute/Fauci” as pronouns, but insincere pronouns aren’t necessarily so easily spotted. (My position was and is that it’s okay to maliciously comply with someone’s professed pronouns to demonstrate that person’s insincerity)

        If you’re not tired of tutoring ignorant allies I’d really appreciate your opinion on that dilemma.