Website : https://www.yes-peace.org/en From https://x.com/WiphalaF/status/1902285589149323408, quoting a french parliament’s member, “obviously” accused of antisemitism since all jews are apparently genocidal and criticizing Netanyahu’s greed for more territories is the same as hating the jewish religion, etc.
Unbelievable that jewish celebrities are supporting the instrumentalization of an antisemitism that they’re supposedly really fearing(, e.g., among many, many, many more examples).

FAFO is an “argument” that could obviously be used to justify October 7th.
What would anyone do faced with a rampant israeli colonization that nothing can stop, not even u.n. decisions or neighbour’s violent threats ? They could be given an equivalent territory than the Sacred Lands ; or should unite instead with Israel, sharing peacefully the same territory, eventually with two governments and civil laws ?

Our mainstream medias are very biased, but surprisingly not as unilateral/biased as expected/usual, though.

  • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
    34·
    23 days ago

    Aren’t most of those 3 leading countries two-faced opportunists, in regards to Palestine? Saudi Arabia and Egypt don’t seem to give a shit, and I’ve read mixed things about Jordan.

    Before I read the entire plan, I already see this as laughable and cynical attempt to justify Isn’tRael’s existence.

    Palestine will not be safe as long as the settler-colonialist, imperialist, fascist apartheid ZioNazi hellhole continues to exist.

    Just like the U.S. has no right to exist, both Israel and the U.S. need to be put down like rabid dogs.

    And I’m obviously not calling for the murder or expulsion of all Amerikkkans or Israeli’s, only namely the destruction of both current state apparatus.

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      15·
      23 days ago

      SA and Jordan kings hold to power relies on US protection, so yes they’re US protectorates. It’s the only reason these gulf monarchies have managed to hold on.

    • supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
      11·
      23 days ago

      KSA just signed 2 brand leasing deals with Trump. So yes, two faced. All the gulf states are ruled by monarchs that make Gorbachev look like Stalin. Fuck them.

      Only solution is raining 500 hypersonics on zios daily.

        • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
          120·
          23 days ago

          Lemmygrad is a refuge for those who don’t want to argue on other communities, so i won’t insist.
          (and your argument isn’t less extreme than zionists{jews or not} desiring Palestine’s destruction ; but, even it it’s far from the only alternative from my point of view, suffice to say that you wouldn’t mind an Israel whose borders would be within the u.s.a. or the e.u.)

          • stink@lemmygrad.mlMEnglish
            28·
            23 days ago

            How is the argument of “settlers, get out” the same as “kill all arabs?”

            One is an occupying force, the other is not.

            Don’t try to both-sides occupation, apartheid, and genocide.

            Would you be saying the same to Algerians who wanted their occupiers out? The occupation of Algeria lasted just as long as ‘israel’ has existed.

            • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
              114·
              23 days ago

              You won’t find any anti-palestinian here, so don’t mistake me for someone else, we’re on the same side, but i’m just believing in an issue that would satisfy both Israel and Palestine, while you believe that we’re forced to choose a side.
              Now it’s up to me to prove that such alternative(s) exist. I’ve already discussed it in greater length on Lemmygrad and other social medias, and i’m a bit too busy&lazy to do a mega-synthesis here, at least this evening, but i believe that there are other options.

              • ☭CommieWolf☆@lemmygrad.ml
                18·
                23 days ago

                Why should any solution at all satisfy Israel in any way? You do not prosecute a crime by finding what works best for both victim and perpetrator, this is making a false equivalence.

          • KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml
            19·
            23 days ago

            The fact that the colonialist entity was made out of the land of others, instead of a piece of the coast of Germany, for example, show very well that it’s creation from the start was an act of colonialism, and as such should not exist. Settling them anywhere in colonial countries like in the Americas or Australia, for example, doesn’t look like a good option either as those countries have their own problems to be worked on still regarding colonialism.

            As for the specifics of the destruction of the colonialist entity, the people who live there, excluding the ones that have taken direct part of the genocide of the Palestinian people, should be allowed to live their lives. If that would be in Palestine, in other lands or wherever is something for them and the Palestinians to decide though.

            • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.mlOP
              111·
              23 days ago

              instead of a piece of the coast of Germany

              I don’t understand, wouldn’t that be colonizing Germany ?
              And european colonizers can go back to Europe, but israelis can’t go back in a country where they’ll speak hebrew and have their own laws, which is why i mentioned the re-creation of Israel inside the west(, that’d be in the worst&‘less imaginative’ case i.m.o.)
              (i’m not criticizing your desire to de-westernize the world though, and would also like much more diversity among nations than currently)

              • markinov@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                15·
                23 days ago

                And european colonizers can go back to Europe, but israelis can’t go back in a country where they’ll speak hebrew and have their own laws, which is why i mentioned the re-creation of Israel inside the west(, that’d be in the worst&‘less imaginative’ case i.m.o.)

                speaking hebrew and their own laws, on the cost of other’s land and lives?

              • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.mlM
                8·
                22 days ago

                They can speak Hebrew with each other in prison don’t worry. That’s where most “Israelis” will end up. You know that right? They all have to serve in the IOF and all of them are criminals.