• Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    4 days ago

    i’m sure they’ll get right on that now that the u.s. has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that it will put missiles designed to strike russia in ukraine, the very reason the invasion happened in the first place

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      4 days ago

      False. Russia illegally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine. Everything else that forgives this act is propaganda…

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          4 days ago

          Classy. And yeah, that’s my point. Propagandists *ahem* think it’s not a big deal, “Russia just dipped across the border for some operations no biggie!” It’s a very big deal…

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            3 days ago

            do you think you’re not a propagandist? and i’m still waiting to hear all about those legal invasions you love so much

            do you take this hard of an anti-U.S. tack? they’ve invaded far more countries than russia ever has

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        { In 2008, US Ambassador (later CIA Director) William Burn cautioned that NATO expansionism “particularly to Ukraine” could cause a Russian invasion, stating, “In Ukraine, [fears surrounding such expansion include] that the issue could potentially split the country in two, leading to violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force Russia to decide whether to intervene.” He goes on: “Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face.”

        { In June 2022, a WSJ/National Opinion Research Center poll showed 55% of Ukrainians believed NATO (and 58% wrt the US, 70% wrt the Ukrainian govt.) bears some/a great deal of responsibility for the Russian invasion and ongoing war.

        Russian propaganda runs deep!!